aaaaarrrghh!! *sigh* Cato, Cato, Cato...*shaking my head* Please don't tell me we have to put up with seeing him pull out his shirttail and his gut spill out of his uni every time a timeout is called. aaaaaarrrrghhh!
The undying faith in Cato the Fake Nato is amazing, I just hope the fans extend the same patience for Cato's 5 years fruitless pro career to Yao's. Ok Yao's the No.1 pick, make that 3 years if he is not performing well to call him a bust.
Everyone should give Cato one more chance to prove all yall wrong. Let him prove it this coming season.
Put me in the latter that says we have seen the best of Kelvin Cato. He had everything to play for last yr and didn't play any better than he did the first yr the Rockets got him. If anyone has ever watched warmups and have seen Cato shootings 3's with Langhi know that he's a satisfied athelete who has been paid and doesn't give a damn. Lets be truthful could be at least as effective as Elden Campbell and everyone know he is a waste of a atheletic talent. Give Campbell his due because he normally steps up in the playoffs, but when people call Kandi the second best center in the league, you know some guys are slacking. What you do in the offseason show in the regular season. Look at how some players improve, J. O'Neal,McGrady,Kobe and some stay the same like Camby and Cato. Its just desire and hard work that seperates a J'Oneal,E.Brand from Cato and Mo......... Anyways, he's paid more than anyone on this board criticizing him, so we just have to watch him sulk after Ming puts his lazy ass on the bench.
That is irrelevant. The logic goes like this: RC Cola claimed that trade rumors are evidence that Cato has some sort of value, and is a desirable commodity by other GMs. I mentioned that while there were rumors regarding Shaq and Kobe, in all probability, nothing was ever being discussed. The relevance is ridiculously obvious. For Cola's argument to have meaning, one has to accept that speculation can be equated with actual trade discussions. Who cares about whether such discussions are actualized. We're talking about the simple equation "media speculation = actual discussions." I don't think that's accurate. I used an obvious example of it not being accurate to eliminate the assumption at-large. Simple logic.
man thats gay. I hate stuff like this. just when i feel he is really working hard. Somebody postes something that makes me doubt again.
we had the same type of problems with caito in portland . i think the rockets are a very, very exciting team and the futuer is ming, griffen,francis, mobley, and the europian kid who supposedly can dunk like DRJ . why spoil it with kelvin caito? cant they buy out he's contract out? the guy is more talk then anything else he's a bonafide cancer
We'll waive our 7 million dollar cancer around the time you guys waive your 18 million (or whatever it is now) dollar cancer. Cato's a drag, but I'm damn glad we're paying him now instead of being stuck with Pippen and his contract. By the way, I think you guys have an exciting team too, even though I enjoy seeing you guys lose even more than the Jazz. Get rid of Scottie and you shoot up to my top five fave teams.
the blazers athleticism is downright scary...especially in the backcourt: Derrick Anderson Antonio Daniels Jeff McGinnis Damon Stoudamire Bonzi Wells am i missing anyone? that said, i blame you all for what happened to cato!!! if you had motivated his fat, overpaid, lazy ass by putting him on the court early in his career, maybe he wouldn't be the waste of space he is now!!! who am i kidding...we made him the $42mill man.
According to this thread: 1. Cato sucks! 2. Cato isn't working out 3. The realization that the Rockets are better off letting Cato play out his contract than releasing him or pairing him with a valuable contributor just for the sake of trading him. Not offense, but where are the myths and rumors! This is all pretty much common knowledge.
the myths and rumors were referenced in the 1st post: 1) he has not been to the big man camp 2) he is not in great shape 3) he is not "one of the boys"
Exactly. The only myths/rumors are the ones the thread originator posted. Here are the facts: 1) Rudy T or CD, can't remember which, said Cato is working out. You know they won't lie. They can't lie. They won't take the risk. 2) Didn't people SEE Cato working out on this show where Mo T was working out too? 3) Doesn't one guy on this board go to this gym where Cato goes very often? 4) Cato busted his ass off last year and, despite the numbers not looking great, the solid effort was a great improvement over any other year. He tried harder and played betetr D. There were stretches of 10+ rebound games and there were several stretches of 12+ point games. 5) A NEUTRAL source told us Cato is working out, while verse, who quite obviously hates Cato (we're takling now not before) says Cato has a gut and has not been working out. 6) To my understanding, Pete Newell's Big Man Camp is not the only big man camp. 7) Cato is not incredibly overpaid. If overpaid at all, he's probably 1.5M overpaid. If you weren't happy with Cato's effort last year, no player worth 1.5M would satisfy you either. *notes: It's so easy to bash him. But why neglect the positives? Cato played through injuries as much as possible in a hopelessly LOST season. No praise for that? Also, this "talk" about Cato having no friends on the team? I don't buy it. Steve was rootnig for Cato to be the C and didn't want us to draft Ming. When Francis was out, Mooch and Cat tried hard to keep Cato involved in the team. They weren't as effective as Steve, but it's important that they tried. Also, Griffin and Cato played great together IMO. Rice was cato's "buddy" through training camp last year and up until he got injured was always joking around with him. I'd like to state one LAST thing. REGARDLESS of his contract, ALL we can expect from Cato is to give solid effort and do his best. They gave him the pen and he signed, who wouldn't? But as long as he's trying his best during the season, there's nothing we can ask for anymore.
I don't know how he will play this year. I have never been a big fan of Cato. But I saw him at the gym(twice). I have been out of town for three weeks so I don't know if he has been there since. I will be back this weekend and if he is there, I will definitely tell you guys.
Sane, you're right. i just hate cato. he personally offends me. i don't know how i'll watch the rockets knowing he's on the team. how many fat guys or just plain out of shape guys have you seen at the gym? try at least 50% of the people there. just because you go to the damn gym doesn't mean you're in otis thorpe type shape. see #1. see #2 agreed. he showed so much improvement that his overall stats were the same as ever....and worse than his first year year (which was far from stellar). the most positive thing i saw from cato last year was his desire to show up every game and not spend most of the year on the IR. um, how do you no that mumu is neutral and i am not? why don't you ask mumu how long he saw cato working out when he did see him, smart guy? as for "the gut"...all i'm said was that he was starting to get a gut (according to...well...my source). and i didn't say he "has not been working out". i said he is not in good shape, starting to get a gut, and is reluctant to go to the gym outside of the team telling him he needs to go. these are not my personal opinions Sane. this is what i have been told. true. just the most respected. cato is overpaid. if you were happy with cato's production last year and fielded a team of catoesque clones and paid them that amount of money...you'd be the worst team in nba history. cato is a good backup center. maybe one of the best. problem is, he was not and is not and probably never will be starter material. that said, my thread has not been about his salary...so why do you bring this up? don't shoot the messenger, Sane. you want positives on cato? start a thread on it and i'll give you more than you expect. as far as him not having friends on the team, you misjudge me. i'm NOT STATING AN OPINION! i'm passing on a quote. how hard is that for you to understand??? maybe you should change you name from Sane to Misconstrue.
i know for a fact that Cato's attitude is horrible, not only is it obvious on the court, but it's obvious off the court, i've heard him say stuff that let's u know he doesnt care about anyone except himself, he doesnt really care about anything, probably just cares about his money, that's why he has a poor work ethic and will never get better or more fit.
Verse, First of all, we heard he's working out, and that is true. We've established that. Maybe he's not in perfect shape yet, but he's working out. That's the point. That's work ethic, that's WORKING during the offseason. You know what this means? It means he's NOT lazy. Second of all, Cato makes about 6.5M. That's not overpaid. When you see Todd Macculoch on the Sixers without Kidd this year, you'll know he's not. Cato doesn't have Kidd. When Francis started including him in the offense, he became very effective and active. Third of all, stats don't mean crap to me. You shouldn't base your opinion on stats, because there's so much else to consider. Getting back on defense doesn't show in stats, and neither does playing with intensity. Even getting the crowd riled up over nice alley-oops and energizing the team doesn't show up on stats. Cato DID do all this. On an absolutely crapy team, he played his ass off, and didn't succumb to injuries unless he had no choice at all. Finally, about this opinion thing. First of all, those quotes could have easily been taken out of context. Maybe he was joking and your friend misunderstood? If your friend is such a reliable source, how come he/she just started informing you now? Is it out of the realm of possiblity that Cato was joking around and your friend just didn't like what he heard and made it sound like Cato's slacking? One last thing. Are you saying Rudy T or CD lied, then Cat lied, then bigboymumu lied, and all the reports are false and that Cato just went to the gym that one day that someone else went and that's what everyone is talking about?
Rudy and CD lie ALL the time. They lie to protect the players. Anyone remember when Rudy said that Vernon Maxwell left the team in the playoffs because of a hamstring injury, it turns out that Rudy booted Max for actions detrimental to the team. If you have followed the Rockets then you know NEVER to believe what Rudy and CD say in the press...NEVER...especially about players. They always protect the players and keep the criticisms in house, that is why they are the best. DD PS. Cato has always sucked, and Steve took up for him because he likes that Cato does not demand the ball.
Cato needs to get in physical shape and also work with CD and Mr.Mean on developing a low post offensive game which he has never shown uptil now. If Griffin can show some improvement within a year why can't Cato after so many years? Injuries might have something to do with it but I think he lacks desire and motivation,after all he is known to taking three point shots during practice instead of working on his obvious weaknesses.
