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Ray Rice knocks fiancee unconscious

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by tallanvor, Feb 19, 2014.

  1. Remii

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    Merely an allegation huh... Ooootay... Lol...


    He poured bleach on the kid too, reportedly... And just reading that is way worst than the Ray Rice video.

    But the hypocrisy is people are more concerned with NFL players who commit violence against women when technically it's not many of them doing that compared to how many players are in the NFL than they are about the regular people in society who commit more violence against women than NFL players do... And a majority of the "regular guys" don't lose their jobs and or go to jail.

    I think Goodell should be fired for what he did to the Saints and making the NFL the No Fun League _ but he should not be fired for the guilt of the rest of the country for being ignorant to violence. People are more upset with Goodell when the justice system did nothing.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Let me apologize to the women and to the VICTIMS of domestic violence people my intent was not to downplay the situation..</p>&mdash; Paul George (@Yg_Trece) <a href="https://twitter.com/Yg_Trece/status/510063178777362432">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    There seems to be a large difference in tone and diction in these tweets but I can't quite put my finger on it. I have a sneaking suspicion that Paul George only wrote two of them.
     
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  3. ynelilvs99

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    Well hed better hope he never gets accused of domestic violence bc all ppl will have to do is post this and automatically ppl will be positive he did it. Hes a dumbass.
     
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  4. SwoLy-D

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    LOLs. True.

    Is this the same guy that broke his leg?!?!? :eek:
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't know the statistics but I would guess that regular guy who was seen on video beating his GF or wife would do jail time. Many jobs also won't hire felons so a regular like that would probably lose their job too.

    As with what happened to Ray Rice NFL players probably have less a chance of doing jail time than most regular guys because they can afford better lawyers.
    True the justice system let us down but a rich guy getting light treatment in the justice system isn't new. Anyway that the judge and prosecutors didn't hold Rice accountable enough doesn't excuse Goodell. The NFL isn't a court of law and they aren't bound by what the courts do or not. For instance Gordon testing positive for mar1juana isn't a legal offense unless he was driving at the time.
     
  6. mick fry

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    Lmao, I would have bought a "my bad".
     
  7. Nook

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    Suggs also supposedly drove his car with his wife hanging out and dragging on the road.

    Playing in the NFL isn't a normal job, there are pros and cons to be a pro athlete. I have no problem with NFL players being suspended or banned for serious crimes.

    Do you have a link showing that NFL players do not have a higher % of domestic violence than the general public?

    The DA was in a tough spot because Palmer had no desire to testify against Ray Rice. Sometimes charges are still brought (Warren Moon) but other times they are not.
     
  8. mick fry

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    T Sizzle be trippin!
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    If the DA only had access to some indisputable evidence that negated the need for testimony. Then he could have averted putting Rice in a program meant for nonviolent criminals where there isn't a victim.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    Good Thing for cops . . that they not considered 'regular guys'

    http://jezebel.com/5991019/forty-percent-of-police-officer-families-experience-domestic-violence



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  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Just heard on CBS News that Ray Rice had told Goodell back in April that he had punched his Fiance.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    These female ravens fans wearing ray rice jerseys are hilarious. I am hoping they are drunk
     
  14. Rocket River

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    1. My point in posting it is .. . . people are acting like Ray is the evilest man alive . . while others get a pass
    2. he lost his whole livelihood and future livelihood behind it . . again others get a pass
    3. we should hold all wife beaters accountable to the same level and not give out any more passes
    4. Ray is not the 'face' of domestic violence . . I am concerned on any one being the "face"

    Rocket River
     
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  15. Bandwagoner

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    1. The story has completely shifted to the NFL and other peoples reactions, and away from Rice
    2. He is still a millionaire many times over
    3. Ray Rice got a serious pass from the court system
    4. Ray Rice IS currently the face of domestic violence and having a face on a serious issue that needs awareness isn't a bad thing.
     
  16. Richie_Rich

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    Wow, this needs to get more attention.

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    The video above is Polian's answer to that question, which aired on SportsCenter at 10:47 a.m. Here is a transcription of what he said:

    It is very puzzling to me. As a matter of fact, I worked as a vice president in the NFL office in 1993, with respect to football operations. I know how the office works, I've physically been there—it was a different building, not the one they're in now—but it's very difficult for me to understand how that could happen. Especially when you're in a situation that is as high-profile as that particular incident is. It's puzzling, and I have as many questions as everyone else. It's outside my area of expertise. For all the years that I was in the NFL, NFL security, and the NFL's ability to protect its integrity, the so-called "protection of the shield," was unmatched in American business. Forget about sports—in American business. I mean, you did not step out of line in the NFL, and if you did, there was an unwritten rule that when you were called into the office—and met with someone who was the commissioner or there at the behest of the commissioner—that you better come clean, that you better tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And if you work in the office, you better be on top of the details. The office was there to make sure that the clubs, the players, the reputation of the NFL reamined unsullied. That goes back to the 1960's with the administration of Pete Rozelle. So this is totally, totally out of character for what I know of the NFL office.​

    That segment ended up getting cut short, perhaps due to a technical mishap, and so Polian was brought back on the air at 11:08 a.m., at which point he was asked the exact same question by Chris McKendry.
    And here is a transcription:

    Well it can happen. It's a very large organization, much larger than when I served in the league office, maybe much larger by a factor of 10. When you have a large, bureaucratic organization, which that is, and there are some that think it is too large, very honestly. Things can slip through the cracks. Someone can make a value judgement who has no right to make that judgement. The CEO, who is in effect Roger Goodell, doesn't get all the information he needs all the time. That's a fact of life in bureaucracies. In this case, we'll find out what happened, and they'll absolutely, they being the NFL and Roger, will have to take steps to make sure it never happens again.​

    So, what the hell happened here? In the first segment, Polian makes the NFL out to be the East German Stasi, where a low-level executive wouldn't dare hide pertinent information from his or her superiors for fear of swift and merciless retribution. But then here comes Polian 20 minutes later, describing the NFL offices as a run-of-the-mill bureaucracy where of course vital pieces of information could fall through the cracks.

    Bill Polian either has a hard time maintaining consistent opinions for longer than 20 minutes at a time, or something spooked him into softening his answer during that second go-round. If we assume the first answer to be the truest one, you can probably guess what that something might have been.


    Somebody got to Polian. :eek:
     
  17. tinman

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    So why are they canceling Rihanna's performance?
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Update: CBS drops Rihanna performance as tonight's NFL opener amid Ray Rice scandal <a href="http://t.co/gKzNfhiJ3n">http://t.co/gKzNfhiJ3n</a></p>&mdash; Mashable (@mashable) <a href="https://twitter.com/mashable/status/510181347751919616">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/CrownRoyal22">@CrownRoyal22</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/mashable">@mashable</a> so a victim of domestic violence gets her performance cancelled b/c the NFL mishandles punishing a woman beater k</p>&mdash; The Prick, Ph.D (@Todd_316) <a href="https://twitter.com/Todd_316/status/510183933204779008">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/MrAverage_Joe">@MrAverage_Joe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/mashable">@mashable</a> woah! rhianna, the biggest domestic violence figure out there dropped. massive cover up goin' on for sure. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/shady?src=hash">#shady</a></p>&mdash; Carlos Olin Montalvo (@carlosolin) <a href="https://twitter.com/carlosolin/status/510184334582484992">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/mashable">@mashable</a> -So, <a href="https://twitter.com/CBS">@CBS</a> wants to cover the NFL/Rice Domestic Violence coverup &amp; decides to pulls a performance from a Domestic Violence victim?</p>&mdash; T. Kareem Powell (@tkareempowell) <a href="https://twitter.com/tkareempowell/status/510186239665135616">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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