RAW physical STRENGTH: LeBron Vs Artest

Dwight Howard a chance? Dwight Howard would punk them both. But he's a nice guy. I think Artest is stronger.

 

Artest appears both heavier and stronger (not that you can guage strength by looking at someone).

Lebron seems lean and with wider shoulders but I always feel like his size is exaggerated. He isn't near as big as Karl Malone despite the fact he claims to weigh about the same as the Mail Man. On the other hand, I remember maybe a year or two ago it was reported that Artest came into camp at a lean 260lb. I find that more believable than Lebron weighing over 240lb.

 

LeBron was officially measured at 6'7" without shoes and 240 pounds at the draft combine before he was drafted. He's gotten bigger since then, some people just carry their weight differently.

 

Ron Artest in rage mode gets a +5 strength and a 4d2 roll multiplier. His intelligence and charisma is reduced 90% though.

 

It's well known that NBA players can't fight. Artest is the exception to that rule.

 

Didn't know that and I understand about guys carrying weight differently. Good point.

I'd still take Artest in any sort of functional (or weight room) strength exercise a person can think of.

 

I don't know. I fully believe had Ben Wallace and Artest been allowed to go at it and I mean REALLY go at it and not 3 seconds of pushing each other that Artest would have won convincingly. I know his dad was an amateur boxer and that Ron has gone a few rounds wearing the gloves but I don't think his boxing experience is much more than a weekend warrior type of thing as a kid.

I DO think Ron is stronger and that Ben Wallace is such a (pardon the 90s term) studio gangster that he would have had his a$$ handed to him by Ron. However, Ron's punches on those fans looked pretty stupid. It looks like any boxing training he had was forgotten a long time ago.

I would be worth watching on PPV to see Ron/Wallace go at it though.

 

I don't know about LeBron, but I wager that Artest could walk in the ring with anybody in the MMA and beat them silly. They won't take him to the ground before he punches them stupid. He is a beast, sort of like Tyson in his prime. Both are certifiably crazy. And do you realize how BIG and athletic Artest is?

 

I wouldn't bet my money against Big Ben Wallace though. He's probably one of the strongest guys in the NBA. He sent Ron flying with that push.

I know bench pressing have nothing to do with fighting but it just shows how strong ben wallace is. He claims to bench press 460lbs... im sure thats probably near the top of all NBA players.

 

I'd take Artest at this point in a heartbeat. But LeBron will probably be stronger when he hit's his 'prime' years. A lot of people forget how young he is.

And bench pressing isn't the end-all, be-all measurement of strength.

 

460? Wow! That is much better than I thought. I remember Clyde Drexler mentioning once that Kevin Willis could bench over 400 so if Ben can bench 460 that is amazing.

I totally agree but more times than not an athlete (not the dude that lives on the bench press) who can bench that much is usually comparably strong on other lifts too. I'm curious as to how much deadlifting and squatting some of these NBA guys do.

Artest couldn't even knock out some drunken, fat fans how do you figure he could last even 30 seconds against professional fighters? The heavyweights and super heavyweights are freaky strong and although they don't have near the skills of a professional boxer I promise you they would destroy Ron even with his reach advantage. If it went to the ground he would be choked or tapping out in seconds. Big, muscular and even strong means a lot less in a fight than skill and keeping your head clear.

 

I would love to see such a match, because until in actually happens, it is all supposition. I know this, Artest is super big, super strong, super fast, and super crazy. Sounds like a dangerous combination to me in any form of combat situation. I don't think he could be taken down by most UFC types.

 

I'll take the guys who train for this for decades over the guy who has trained for this never. The superheavyweights also happen to be very close to Ron's size are probably much stronger when it comes to practical strength. Again, this is ALL they do for much of their lives. Being crazy is a disadvantage against a skilled fighter, BTW.

 

Sorry, I'm as big of an Artest fan as you could find, but you are being silly. Artest would have no chance. Fighting is not about strength or speed. It helps but only if you let two comparable fighters go at it.

Besides, a long time ago I watched an Artest video on youtube on which he said he has NO training in any type of martial arts or box. You unleash him on office workers and he destroys everyone. Let him go at a professional fighter and you get the opposite result.