ahahhahaa Back in in the day, I'm I Soph in HS, older guys were in charge (we had taken over a apartment complex pool, since 5pm or so). A couple of the older guys, who were friends of friend, went to somewhere on Westheimer/Wilcrest (Miami Subs?) to bring some girls back. One of the older guys was still there with the rest of us, and we smoked a bit and...a bit later... he drops knowledge on young me: "I used to use the pull-out method...and now they call me 'Dad'" I never forgot that lesson.