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Rate Morey's Overall Performance with Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Feb 15, 2012.

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How do you rate Morey's overall performance as a Rockets executive?

Poll closed Feb 29, 2012.
  1. A - Very positive. One of the top GMs in the business.

    102 vote(s)
    26.5%
  2. B - In general, pretty good, though there have been some missteps.

    189 vote(s)
    49.1%
  3. C - Very mixed. Hard to say if the good outweighs the bad.

    61 vote(s)
    15.8%
  4. D - In general, fairly poor, a few legitimate successes but mostly misguided.

    23 vote(s)
    6.0%
  5. F - Total failure. He should be fired immediately or after this season.

    10 vote(s)
    2.6%
  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    I can't give Morey that sort of credit unless one of two things should happen: (1) D-Mo actually demonstrates he deserved to be top 5 pick by making the All-Rookie team and/or developing into an all-star, or (2) the Rockets trade him for a top 5 draft pick this summer.
     
  2. roslolian

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    What could he have done? Anyway I like how you think replacing the owner is so easy to do, I'm sure you can find another millionaire off the street who can buy Alexander out. Your post reminds me of the genius who made the fire the owner thread.
     
  3. flamingdts

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    I agree

    But would you say that D-Mo is one of those "high potential" moves that we expect more of from Morey?

    Although to be fair it's more of a low risk/very high reward move but that's besides the point.
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    It takes years typically to recover from the loss of two elite stars (McGrady and Yao) -- Morey has done a good job of keeping us competitive and has been really close on some big moves.
     
  5. Wolverrines

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    B

    You win some you lose some but I would was he has done a lot more Linning ;)
     
  6. leebigez

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    This is me and mainly because of no direction. I mean, they could've had gerald wallace to make the playoff push, they balked becuz of extra yr. This yr, they tried to get gasol who makes 18 and 19m,missed, signed dally which is cool. Pick a lane and stay in it, that's all.
     
  7. thetatomatis

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    incomplete. That turns into a F at some point soon. He is not finished with gasol business, has not made his direction known, has no plan in place moving forward. Now at some point that will turn real bad.
     
  8. Brandyon

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    If you voted "F," then you are a total failure. Al Davis during his final years kind of personnel failure.
     
  9. thetatomatis

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    But for thread sake a C is about right. Barely passing and not exactly causing any great moves to shake the Earth for an A yet either. A few B moves pulled off. A few F's. A few C's more than others for role players and flexibility.

    Overall solid C=average just like the team over last 3 years.
     
  10. Francis3422

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    C-.

    Great scouting and good success turning usually wasted picks (second rounders) into quality NBA players. Aaron Brooks played well for awhile too as a later first rounder. Deal for Artest was ballsy and commendable. Gasol/Nene strategy was correct. Has not put us in cap purgatory. Haven't really had any direction over the past few years other than waiting and hoping on Yao. Should have been able to get us some sort of seven foot cadaver over the past few years that could have helped us pick 15th. Has decent relationships with players at best.
     
  11. Jontro

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    Solid C... given that we're currently in a playoff spot, but nowhere near 2nd round or WCF caliber.
     
  12. napalm06

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    Using this logic, only about 6 teams out of 30 qualify for B (much less A) status? To say nothing of the situation that Morey inherited.
     
  13. TXRoxBBall

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    He inherited two all star players. Though oft injured I admit, he could have moved one of them sooner than he did asks gotten some value for one of them. He started our doing well but has since slid backward. Just not convinced of his path, certainly not convinced of his treatment of players as assets.
     
  14. flamingdts

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    Which one could he have moved sooner? Les was not parting with Yao and we got as much out of McGrady as we feasibly could.

    Morey made a huge move to put us in not just contender status, but championship caliber when he acquired Artest. What happened after that we all know, but anyone who thought we should have traded McGrady or Yao when we acquired Artest is lying or crazy.
     
  15. pbthunder

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    I notice that most of us give him an A or B, yet all the noise is made by those giving him a C or worse.
     
  16. zzpot

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    This is one of the better threads started lately thanks durvasa.

    I see a lot of good opinions that have merit.

    I'm giving Morrey a solid C+.

    I wish we were a better team for sure, but the moves he has made are not that bad.

    Of course they are not always super brilliant either... Take the Lin release. If Morey had kept Lin then he would have to cut a player... The whole damn board would have SCREAMED!! Racism and the china connection and Less was making money on a Chink and on and on and on.

    Lin would still be on the bench and haters would hate.. The only way Lin would get playing time is if Klow or the Dragon got hurt and how much freedom would Kmac give him to play and run the team?

    I'm a Lin fan by the way and wanted to keep him over Flynn, but there was really no way Morey could have justified keeping Lin over Flynn without a trade and i'm not real sure why we signed Jeff Adrian and not Greg Smith? That is still a Puzzling move by Morey and his team.... Maybe it's time to blame some of the coaches for this crap.


    Morey gets a solid C+ from me.


    zzpot.
     
  17. Kwame

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    Yeah, he shows his smartness so much that other GMs are afraid to pick up the phone when he calls. When he attempts to contact them, fear is struck deep into their hearts as they ignore his calls because he's going to steal their best player. :rolleyes:

    But in all seriousness, I believe I gave Morey a solid B a while back, but I'm downgrading it to a C. He's assembled a bunch of role players that play hard and will keep the team mired in mediocrity. He and his staff have shown an ability to find solid guys, but no elite players in the draft. He's made some draft choices and personnel decisions that I highly disagree with, but no need to rehash old arguments here. Hopefully their risk averse approaching when it comes to drafting in the lottery will give way to drafting players with higher upside and potential, which he explicitly said he doesn't do at the Sloan conference.

    While he's collected a lot of pieces, he seems to overvalue or, at the very least, place a different value on them than other teams, which has inhibited his strategy of "cashing in his assets" for a star. Other teams, which are often laughed at for having poor management, such as the Knicks and Clippers, were able to do it. Even though LA and NY are more desirable locations it seems and even though Melo wanted to go to the Knicks, you still have to have the valuable pieces to trade in order to capitalize on the strategy. Thus far that approach by Morey hasn't been successful and I have my doubts that he'll ever be able to utilize that strategy to acquire elite talent given the caliber of "assets" he's collected.

    He talks way too much. He needs to keep a lower public profile. He also needs to stop using the word asset(s) so much in describing players and talking about how everyone can be traded. Everybody knows this is a business and players and other personnel are expendable assets, no need to mention it publicly. This may be a contributing factor to other players not wanting to come here, because of the negative perception they have of management and the way they publicly and openly talk about discarding players. NBA athletes have egos and you have to be able to manage personalities, which means he needs to work on his pr skills or, as I said earlier, just talk less.

    I don't like his infatuation with undersized pfs. If in the past he felt that height and size did not matter in the NBA, hopefully he acknowledges at least to himself that they do matter and will adjust his personnel decisions accordingly.

    I don't have a lot of confidence in the combination of Le$ and Morey. An owner who wants to be competitive (read mediocre) while rebuilding along with a GM who has been unable to bring in elite talent one way or the other. I think I said in another thread that I would give him (Morey) a handful of years to be able to rebuild, but my expectations are low in terms of what he'll actually be able to accomplish.

    Of course a lot of these issues will be resolved if the Rockets can acquire an elite player. But it doesn't seem like that's going to happen through free agency or a blockbuster trade, which means the best way for the Rockets would be through the draft lottery. Although there are no guarantees in the draft, the team, however, isn't going to get a high enough pick to be able to have the odds in their favor of getting a potentially elite talent. Shabazz Muhammad will be coming out in 2013. Just saying that he could be the guy to lead this team back to glory.

    People seem to be happy with moral victories and satisfied with being bounced out of the playoffs in the first round. I can see how that would be exciting to some, but I would like to see the Rockets compete for a championship or two before I die.
     
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  18. JimRaynor55

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    I give him an A-, and that minus is only because he missed Jeremy Lin like every other GM in the league.

    By all rights, the Rockets should be a bottom dwelling piece of crap right now. Teams that lose both of their max contract superstars to injuries, and who have their trade for another All-Star nixed by the freaking commissioner, should not be anywhere close to decent.

    Morey has played the hand he was dealt very well, and kept this team afloat.
     
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  19. Carl Herrera

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    A bunch of Asian moms in this thread.
     
  20. JimRaynor55

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    So sad to see Rockets fans turning on Morey. You can't polish a turd. No other GM (and certainly no fan posting on a forum) could've turned this team into a contender over these last few years.

    It's not Morey's fault that Les has decreed that the team must remain decent while rebuilding, instead of tanking. Not that tanking is a guaranteed strategy either. Lots of teams suck for years, draft some new players, and still suck.

    I'd rather have a team that can play competitive and competent basketball every night, than a worthless team gambling on a hypothetical new star to save them.
     

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