for defensive reasons alone i wouldn't give up eddie for 3 players of rashard's talent. what does this team need more of, defense or spot-up 3-point shooting? i'd prefer to leave the rocks as is unless rashard signs for the mce.
Having a SF without Rice's mobility limitations opens up more ball rotation, better looks and more possibilities. Rudy's system is what it is because we've never had a SF as mobile as Rashard.
I don't mean to slam Nachbar, but has anyone on this board actually seen him play in a game, other than in the Rookie Revue? Or, are all of those that are opposed to including Nachbar in a trade for Lewis, just basing their opinions on scouting reports & media hype? I've not seen him play, but I have seen Rashard play. The ideal scenario would be to trade Rice & keep Nachbar, but the reality is, if the Rockets truely are trying to get Rashard, Nachbar would be one of the most likely players to be included in the package.
that is a great derrick coleman quote. i think you might have gotten it from that fran blinebury article written when the nets made the finals. that quote was so funny i cut it out: "During the 1999 labor dispute and lockout, when his then-Nets teammate Kenny Anderson was bragging about his excessive lifestyle to the New York Times, Coleman was asked for his reaction. 'Whoop-de-damn-do', he proclaimed. Now the Nets finnaly have made it to the NBA Finals, and we couldnt have said it better ourselves." pretty funny. see Fran Blinebury is good for something after all. as for rashard, i think that everyone would rather have him as one of our SFs than Glen Rice. i dont really want to part with mo Taylor..but..really...if our lineup is either.. rice, griffin, ming or lewis, griffin, ming its a win win situation. if it can happen by not giving up our rookies, and not giving up griffin i say go for it. lets pull a new york yankee, and just trade for him just so dallas cant have him. cubans getting on my nerves.
Nachbar won't go anywhere because the team was thrilled to draft him, he was thrilled to be a Rocket, they signed him immediately, and anyway, he couldn't be traded til December. And to tell the truth, Seattle already has a Nachbar-ish player (Radmanovic). They need size. But they can't have Eddie. Nunh-unh, nope.
I dont really like the idea of us getting rid of Mo Taylor, we all talk about the Rockets record without Steve in the line-up, buut we were also missing another player lat year and his name was Mo Taylor!!!!!! I see him as being as important as Steve, Eddie, Cat, and Ming! put me down as saying Trade Kt but dont you dare trade Taylor!!!!!
Anyways, I don't see the point of wasting a huge amount of money for a typical SF (who can do all that you say). What you explained could be found in a player like Nachbar, if he turns out to be the player he is supposed to be. Supposedly this guy loves to run, and is great in the open court (meaning he is at least as or more mobile than Lewis.) If he can draw defenders with his shooting ability, I don't see why we would need Lewis at all. Plus did i mention that he is not worth the money he wants? http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/5602359
Why haven't the Rockets at least offered Lewis a three-year deal at the MCE? Just to say we did, so that Lewis can't say later that we dissed him. Keep in mind that such an offer, however, would have to be tempered with the express statement that the Rockets are not promising anything at the end of three years, because of the Joe Smith precident. The Rockets could merely state that they have a good history of overpaying players that have had a previous history of being underpaid (MoT, Shandon sign and trade, Cato, etc.). Maybe the Rockets are being careful at offering Lewis anything since he previously claimed Rudy promised he would draft Lewis (which Rudy denied).
I'd do a S&T for Mo and Rice, or a 3 year deal for the MCE, but no way would I offer a package that included EG.
Certainly anything we can do that wouldn't hurt our team and would keep Rashard from going to Dallas is a smart move. It seems, however, that Cuban is doing all our dirty work for us.
<i>, but the reality is, if the Rockets truely are trying to get Rashard, Nachbar would be one of the most likely players to be included in the package.</i> Since the Rockets aren't allowed to trade Nachbar until December, the odds of him being included in a trade for Lewis are zero.
There is no way we can get Rashard Lewis for a bunch of rejects : MT, Rice, Collier. You guys are dreaming. Seattle would be stupid to take the deadweight. We would be stupid to give up anything more valuable or overpay him. He's using us for more money, the same way he's using Dallas. I will go out on a small limb and predict he resigns with Seattle for more money.
I don't know why the Rockets are so desparate for Rashard. I think they are in good shape with the SFs they have now in Rice and Nachbar. I think Mo T will come back strong this year, so why would we give up for him unless we truly needed a SF? And there is no way Griffin should be going anywhere, especially for Lewis. The Rockets are very deep right now and I think both Glen and Mo will have strong seasons, simply because both of them have pride and will refuse to go out the way they have. Both will be looking to prove something this season. So I think the Rockets better think hard and carefully about any moves that come along, particularly this whole Rashard deal.
Bottom line, I don't think that the Rockets even need Rashard. We could use a Penny Hardaway or an Eddie Jones though.
We for sure dont need a Hardaway or Jones! Neither of them are big enough to play the 3 and both make WAY toomuch to come off the bench behing Cat.
Shooter 1583 (by the way, were the first 1582 Shooter names taken?), the Rockets are not desperate for Rashard. And I seriously doubt Eddie, Cat or Boki would be on the table. If they want to S&T, they can choose from our scraps or from Dallas'. Or they can just pay him a little bit more and he'll stay put. I wouldn't worry about this too much if I were you.
CBFC, that post made so much sense. Would Lewis be an asset to the Rockets? Of course. Did we screw up by not drafting him? Of course. So if we can't get him, we're helping him out a little as you suggested. I really think you nailed it. Thanks for not only coming up with your thought on Lewis, but on the not-bad idea of getting Chucky Brown to come back and do some dirty work for the Rocks again. I know it's been suggested before, but the young players could benefit by his presence in the locker room, as well as his play. And if Rashard decides he would take the MCE from us, maybe we'll take him up on it. Crazier things have happened!
I don't have much to say on this subject, because I think it is mostly useless. But thje question I do want to ask is "Batman Jones", where did you come from? Even though you registered three years ago, two months ago you only had two posts. Did the bug hit you that hard or what? just wondering what the posting frenzy was all about. As far as the actual topic, MoT(a player I like) has to be involved in any Lewis trade.. I just don't see it working any other way.
