I'm pretty sure that federal highway funding does not discriminate as to whose tax money funds the highway.
I'd wager that the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal, (which is comprised of such notable economists as Holman Jenkins (journalism masters) William McGurn (philosophy/Journalism) Dorothy Rabinowitz (English BA) Hugo Restall (asian studies) and Nancy Smith (ba from Hollins college, looks to be another journalism major) probably doesn't know that much more about economics than MacBeth or any other humanities guru. (To be fair, they have one former adjunct professor of econ from Columbia, Susan Lee on there...of course, not with the credentials of Paul Krugman or anything) But anyway, I'd wager that the Editorial Board of the Wall Street Journal is smart enough to realize that absurd rants equating repealing tax cuts for the top 1% during a time of massive government deficit, with Marxist dogma, are a product of ignorance, hysteria, or a combination thereof. Further, I'd wager that they realize, as some here apparently do not, that the belief that markets are perfectlly effficient in allocation of resources in both the long and short runs and that externalities don't exist is equally stupid. Finally, you've got it right on Bush, he had it right: "Haven't we already given money to rich people? This second tax cut's gonna do it again?"
Of course. So bamaslammer is paying for your road as well, right? You make it sound as if you are taking care of bama with no reciprocation. That is not the case.
No, he's not. Residents of rural areas don't contribute enough to the tax base don't contribute enough $ to finance their own roadbuilding, and hence (while the money is not physically aggregated) and require net inflows of federal funding. If you marked every dollar that I contributed to the federal tax base "SF" and deducted the portion of them that went back to New York in federal spending, then there would be a surplus of SF dollars floating around amongst other regions. If you did the same for BS, you wouldn't find any BS dollars floating around New York, or anywhere else, after you deducted his per capita value of federal goods & services recieved as a resident of Alabama ( or rural georgia, or whatever red state), because you would be in the negative. i
I don't understand what some of you are saying. Are you saying the government should withhold no money at all from the people? Who should pay for roads? How about the military? Should any social services exist? How about scientific endeavors? What about national parks? Power plants? Amtrak? Is it fair for cities to use taxpayer money to bring a company to town which ultimately gives you a job? How about stadiums? If you choose that some of the above should be funded while others shouldn't, what happens if I or someone else doesn't agree? How do you reconcile this? For a society and community to exist, do some have to sacrifice for others? How do religious beliefs and morality come into play? If everything should be local, then I would assume Alabama (bamaslammer's location?) gets no tax money which is generated outside of the state. What are the odds this is true?
It's real simple, when I have more money in my pocket...I can buy more bullets or butter, and this in turn contributes to the overall economy...This is how it is suppose to work. The socialistic liberals want a heavy handed government that treats people less like people...
Yeah, but if the government doesn't subsudize the farmers who grow the grain to feed the cows, how are you gonna buy butter?
So is this your way of saying that bama contributes his share? Aren't you glad that your (rather large) share enables you to drive on federally-funded roads in Georgia? BTW, I doubt that bama had road-building in mind when he complained about the Federal Government appropriating "our" money as "theirs."
It's amazing that you and several others continue to defend her on account of her statement, which basically said that all money is the govt's to keep and distribute as they see fit. According to Hildabeast, we should be glad that the ruling class allow you to keep some of it. It is her attitude that galls me. Now as for all of this jumping to extremes that I'm against defense and road-building, I am not. But the common good Clinton is talking about has nothing to do with either. It's more like her common good. Govt. exists to defend our right to life, liberty and property from those who would deprive us of those rights. When govt. turns into a redistribution clearinghouse run by politicians, you have serious problems. And I'm not going to be hypocritical, the GOP does it as well. Just look at Bush's prescription drug boondoogle and that godawful education bill. Republicans are better in that regard than the Democrats, but not much better. Just look at what John Kerry proposes, socialized medicine, tax "credits" to people who pay little or no taxes (that is hilarious, a "credit" for something you never paid), more spending earmarked for failing govt. schools (gotta kowtow to your teacher union goosesteppers) and countless other programs. Kennedy said "Ask not what your country can do for you." Now another man from Massachusetts says "Ask for it from me, I'll steal from the filthy rich who you hate and give to you. Just vote for me." MacB, I understand that govt. has a role in our ability to make money because of law and order and roads, etc. But that fact does not make my money ITS money. I went to school and worked a vast selection of ****ty part-time jobs that forced me to give up baseball. I paid for most of my college myself, along with my GI Bill. I didn't do all of this just so I can be happy with a share the govt. allows me to keep. That is a twisted attitude and is one born of irrational guilt. That is my money that I earned through the sweat of my labors and for it to be redistributed arbitrarily for the purposes of buying votes is just ridiculous.
And it amazes me that you continue to be intentionally mislead about what she actually said, even though you linked us to it. I'm going to play detective here and guess that this happened because you pulled the quote and link off of a right wing blog, and didn't bother reading the article, because once you see the name "Hilary" or "Clinton", you launch into a hate fuled rampage. Here is her statement, from the article: Here is what your pathologically Clinton obsessed mind turned it into. which is wrong, and I don't need to even explain why or how you twisted it as it's obvious. Why do you need to lie to us in order to bash Hilary? Your paranoia is driving you to even more outlandish behavior. The junior senator from New York has little jurisdiction in your fortified rural compound, so if a bunch of rich liberals feel like giving back a little more (to a government that can't pay its own bills), I don't see how you have any grounds to object, unless you're pulling down 4-500k a year and would be impacted by the repeal of the tax cuts for the top 1%. Are you?
It doesn't seem like Hillary personally would be deciding where the money went so this seems like more overblown Hillaryrage. As part of a group we've chosen to make those decisions, known as Congress, she might help make the decisions about tax issues but she's not taking over the government to seize your stuff. Personally I always wonder why people gripe about taxes on the rich? Of all the people we should be concerned about, they should be on the bottom of the list.
Sam, you arrogant jerk. Why didn't you trace back the link I sent, which was from the San Francisco Chronicle, no conservative publication mind you? In case you're too lazy to page back, here it is again: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/06/28/politics2039EDT0165.DTL&type=printable Right wing blog my ass. We have a senator who basically said in not so many words, "You don't need this money. We're smarter than you so we'll make sure we spend it on the 'common good,' which is code for a vote-buying entitlement." You don't have a problem with this? Whose to stop her from saying that people who make $100K are "rich?" It never stops with people like her. But then again, I'm talking to someone who implicitly trusts everything the govt. does, except when a Republican runs the show......
seems like to me that you are putting a lot of words into her mouth and making a lot of assumptions about what she is meaning, which of course is all your preception, which is biased to begin with (as is everyone's)
The problem for Republicans is when Hillary mentions "the Common Good" she actually means that the policies she's pursuing will be good for commoners. Such an idea makes many Righties apoplectic these days.
Yeah, I know it came from a newspaper article that you linked to, hence my reference to the newspaper article that you linked to and my copying, and pasting therefrom, the context which you decided to omit. So tell me bamaslammer, were you just browsing local San Francisco news out of personal interest, and found the quote, and then you stumbled around the article in your ever trusty, faithful, Worldnetdaily blog? Or was it vice versa.... that's a tough one to figure out. The dead giveaway is that you and the Worldnetdaily blog both engaged in the same misleading tactic -- you both omitted the context that she was referring to Bush's latest tax cuts, and conjured up a conspiracy theory nightmare scenario of Hilary stealing your milk money while you slowly and seductively oil down the barrel of your shotgun, gently working the shaft to prepare it for a final climactic confrontation in which you unload its hot projectile. Keep lathering yourself up into a frenzy. There's lots of evil for you to fight in the world.