[Rant] Getting too attached to Rockets Players

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Yet folks are committed to Melo coming here, over Martin staying, maybe we liked what Martin did, like his historical statistics, and more importantly like his attitude.

DD

 

there's an argument there, even if i disagree with it vehemently...

but i don't understand emotional attachment to K-Mart....yet....and I've been a Rocket fan all my life.

 

So does Les Alexander. By that logic, shouldn't we also say team owner before team?

 

i pay my 170 for league pass yearly, i pay for for tickets yearly, i pay for numerous jerseys and other stuff yearly


and yes i really have no connections nor attachment to the city of Houston...the team started in San Diego and moved if it moved again I am sure a lot of you guys would still follow the team even they became the Cincinnati Rockets as i would


i would say there are probably more rockets fans outside of the city/neighboring area of texas in than inside the city itself, that thats not including overseas fans. i mean when i think of houston i just think about the Rockets and nothing else...ask a random houston citizen the same they'll probably say astros or texans



as for the thread itself..i get attached if the team drafted the player more so if he was just traded to the team. if they get traded i feel bad but i still cheer for them on the other team to do well (except when they play the rockets) i like kevin martin but i wouldnt care at all if he was traded especially for melo. ultimately though its about winning a championship i just want the players that will help the team do that

 

This is stupid....
Getting attached to players is part of being a fan. This is your city and this is your team. I dont know about you but i dont watch the games as a zombie. You cheer/watch through the down timesand the good times. You watch players hustle, make plays, and sometimes you watch players develop into great players and or witness history in the making. Ofcourse you'll end up getting emotionally attached.
So im guessing you had nothing to say or show when we traded Hakeem to the raptors..... You just heard about it and went "Eh, NBA is a business"

 

Uh... David Anderson and Joey Dorsey were low risk, low reward "mistakes". Saying they are mistakes is like saying Mike Harris and Jermaine Taylor were mistakes. We didn't sign either of those guys to full MLEs to the point where we had to take a hit to trade them like with the case of Mike James or Stromile Swift.

Which leads me to Trevor Ariza. Ariza wasn't a mistake as much as he was just overpaid. The guy is a solid starter, and when he's not counted on to score 20 a game he's a glue guy that can play both ends of the court. Shane Battier without the leadership.

What makes overpaid players bad is when it gets to the point that they are so overpaid, no other team wants them. In the case of Ariza obviously this wasn't true because we were able to deal him away for maybe a slight downgrade in talent but better fit.

In the short term, Morey gets an A+ IMO. I've heard fans from other teams question his ability to put together a team that can win a title or make a serious playoff push. Houston hasn't yet and its a fair criticism. However, I think Morey has been fighting an uphill battle in terms of luck. He inherited a 50 win team, but one in which relies on it's two injury prone superstars. So when that took a turn for the worse OF COURSE it was hard for the team to recoup.

But give him some credit. We could have let McGrady walk like Toronto did with Bosh or Cleveland did with Lebron, but instead we were able to pull off a trade and get solid talent back. Or we could have let Yao's injury put the team in the lottery for the forseeable future like Philly did with Brand, but instead we turned the team around and maybe we didn't make the playoffs, but we certainly did far better than Philly and our future looks much brighter than theirs considering.

And how is this happening? Because in addition to the great trades (Scola, Lowry, Martin) he's made a lot of great picks using late first rounders and 2nd rounders (Landry, Brooks, Buddinger). That's over half the rotation right there and Morey's fingerprints are all over it.

I really think people need to take a closer look at teams like the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Nets, the 76ers, the Wizards, the Clippers and the Raptors and realize how EASILY we could be them right now. The difference between us and them are the great trades and draft picks that Morey made that they didn't. I suppose you could argue Adelman helped too, but then again who was it that hired him when we had a perfectly capable coach in JVG?

Not saying Morey is God or anything (yes I am) but until it becomes obvious that his moves are doing more harm than good I'll give him credit for the things he's done so far.

 

I can only speak for myself regarding Martin.

I have liked him for years, love the style he plays, love the efficiency and was ecstatic when we got him.

His style is exactly the type of play I enjoy, movement off the ball puts so much pressure on defenses to keep up.

It is the same thing I like about CBud, though Chase is not close to Kmart in efficiency at this stage.

So to me, getting Melo for Martin is not all that much of an upgrade, you get a bit more scoring, but it takes a crap load more shots to get it, and the ball stops at Melo....which is the same reason that Tmac struggled in the playoffs, teams can gang up on one player.

I would prefer to keep Martin and Brooks....if you can get Melo without giving up any starters, then go for it...otherwise, pass.

DD

 

Thats my point also. Kevin Martin was just starting to get his feel for the offense back towards the end of last season. The team had started to gel. They were beating alot of playoff bound teams at that time without their center. My point is the team was showing great promise.

 

I shell out the bucks in Austin so that I don't miss a game, and drive down to Houston to catch one when I can, but even after living here for 30 years, I think of myself as a native Houstonian and a fan of the Houston Rockets. Fans have come to the Rockets for many reasons, from all over the world, and I think it's groovy, but when I read things like...

"Are you f**kin r****ded? "Houston Rockets" is a single possessive phrase, referring to the team. It has nothing to do with the city of Houston. If anyone gave a **** about the city of Houston, I guess we'd have threads on the parks and facilities, and taxes and **** in the GARM wouldn't we?"

...it kind of pisses me off, you know? Be a fan of the team, follow the team because of a player, be a fan of the Rockets for whatever reason you like, but don't **** on the city that's making it all possible.

("you" not meaning you, of course!)

 

the term "fan favorites" doesn't reference the overall team (it's a given that the fan likes the team and city or country they represent) - it means that certain players have individual traits that make them favorites in each fans' eyes. We get excited about team wins, for sure, but we glow about individual contributions and skills. That's why we love players - they have unique talents that we wish we had or we love to witness.

If it weren't for fan favorites, we would have a team composed of nameless, faceless droids that all do the same thing. Sure they might win but it's hard to get as excited about it if there's no one person worth noting. That sounds like a true socialist mentality - the collective matters, not the individual.

 

I'm gonna have to agree with DD on this one. Martin is an extremely gifted offensive player who goes to the line with ease. You don't get that too often. Melo does offer slightly more scoring, but like DD said, he takes too many many shots to get that. Martin on the other hand, gets most of his scoring through his free throws.

Plus, we haven't seen what Martin AND Brooks can do with Yao on the court. Personally I say keep Martin and Brooks!!

 

Factually: full of win
Emotionally: full of fail

Sorry Reeko but I'm a hugely emotional fan and that includes a fan of our players whether they've been here 18 years or 1/2 a season. Unlike my perception concerning other aspects of my life where I enjoy seeing the bigger picture, as a fan I'm emotional down to the sneakers the players wear. (not really, but you get the idea).

 

NBA is a business; if you trade a beloved player for a hated one, your fans will love you less and you lose money - a player's popularity does play a factor into his tradibility

 

You seem to have already had this explained to you. But I'll just jump on board and wonder openly why you're so hostile towards Houston.

 

+1

although he was more likely took a bullet for a girl unknow.

 

They are the HOUSTON Rockets. Not just "The Rockets."

Deal with it.