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Random Trade Thread 2024-25

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 1, 2024.

  1. ceonwuka

    ceonwuka Member

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    Fred + Jalen for Lavine + Lonzo works right now even with Jalen’s poison pill.

    We could probably squeeze a pick out of Chicago in this deal.

    We would basically be trading 3 additional overpaid Jalen years for 2 additional overpaid Lavine years except Lavine is actually an efficient scorer and decent playmaker.

    Let’s see what Amen can do as the lead guard with Lavine as a safety net.

    Lonzo is expiring but I honestly wouldnt mind bringing him back on a cheap deal. I think even without the same athleticism he is such a smart player he would find a way to contribute.
     
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  2. mac_got_this

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    Should’ve went after garland when he was unhappy
     
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  3. CantStopJG24

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    Go after Monk at the very least. Our bench scoring is pathetic.
     
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    Yeah, I agree. Him and Rozier would be welcome additions to the team.
     
  5. ceonwuka

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    Monk wouldnt be terrible, I think he’s a little streaky though. His trajectory probably a likely outcome for Jalen as sad as it is to say.

    I would prefer Sexton since the shooting is more reliable.
     
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    Do you reckon maybe Pat knows dude can really shoot it?

    There is 0 reasons he would take that deal.
    Like non.


    He might swap Jimmy for those 2 guys, but it is a huge risk for us to do that, and could see us crash out of contention.


    If trading FVV we MUST receive a better PG in return. Which makes it unlikely any such deal happens....
     
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  7. DrNuegebauer

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    London wouldn't be less athletic than Fred would he??

    Probably shoot the same and pass just as well.


    Alpy loses the most if FVV goes. Half of Alpy's offence is gone.
     
  8. Corrosion

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    Tate is Ime's break glass in case of emergency guy.

    He's not a good shooter from outside but he's a great defender and can initiate the offense when necessary.
    The last year of Silas, the team scored on 72% of the possessions he initiated .... that's a fantastic figure and to top it off, he can play 1-5 on both ends.

    It's kinda tragic that he's spent the better part of the last two years on the bench while the franchise develops these young draft picks ....

    I think he'll make some team very happy as a free agent and become a regular rotation piece getting solid minutes.

    I'm gonna hate to see him in another uniform.
     
  9. Corrosion

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    The FVV question is a huge one going forward.

    I can't see him being here beyond seasons end, not even at a reduced rate. They need to move him sooner than later because if they just let him expire, there isn't enough cap space to get a quality replacement.
    I came up with ~$23.4m, Spotrac has $19.2. and that's renouncing ALL of your free agent cap holds - Adams, Tate, Uncle Jeff .... (the difference might be incomplete roster charges).

    And then remember that if you use cap space the only salary exception you get is the Room exception which is less than half the NT-MLE.

    Picking up the option just doesn't make any sense .... I guess you could try to convince me that some team wants that expiring contract, but I find it hard to believe they'd give you any real talent in return without a lot of draft assets attached.
    Just seems to me it's best to make that move between now and the deadline rather than waiting for the offseason.

    Other than Fox & Lavine I really don't know who might be available but going into next year with FVV is just a bad idea.
     
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  10. ceonwuka

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    I can’t say I agree with this statement. Fred isn't really breaking the defense down and getting Aply easy buckets. Fred is just simply passing him the ball but Aply still has to do a lot of the heavy lifting to score.
     
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    Maybe Fred should stop jacking up 3s early in the shot clock
     
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    FVB is scoring at 50% TS. Last year he was good for us but this year he has been straight trash.
     
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    why so he can dribble around in circles and then jack one up?
     
  14. luckyman76

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    I thought we could wait but now I am seeing it is basically Fox or bust. I thought of trading Brooks first but this cannot wait. Brooks has been doing well and $20M isn't $43M. If your sole reason for signing him was so other players could shine because Harden would overshadow them that is a horrible logic to build a team around. Alpi would have been better with Harden, Jalen would still be a chucker but with less opportunity. Jabari would still have gotten his touches. TOs would have been about the same. Harden would be a dead end trade and capwise but other than that I don't see the logic of why we skipped Harden other than FVV's age and the stigma of Harden. Edwards is the ultimate get.
     
  15. Corrosion

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    I think the answer to the Harden issue is a simple one - they wanted to develop their young talent, not just have Harden be the offense and do all the heavy lifting while the young guys stand in the corner waiting ....
    These dude have had to learn to play within the confines of an offensive scheme - good, bad or indifferent.

    They all needed that ....
     
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    The playoff format where playins now exist really screwed us.

    Looking at the West, both Suns and Kings would be having a fire sale right now if playins didn't exit.

    We own the Suns picks so that means we would be getting Booker this trade line and maybe even swing for Fox to pair with Booker.

    But because of the playins, the Suns are holding onto hope they can squeak in and the Kings don't have to completely blow it up even tho Fox has asked out.
     
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  17. Hemingway

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    I'm not a Lavine fan, but this isn't too bad. His injury risk is pretty scary though. If we wait until the off-seasn we can probably do better for Jalen, but that is a risk as well.
     
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    ...but why? You didn't really explain what it was about the playin playoff format that made teams "hold on for hope".
     
  19. Phillyrocket

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    If you can get Fox for FVV a couple of picks and one of Reed or Cam that deal should already be done.

    You could then trade Green for LaVine and make a serious playoff run.

    I’d do the Fox deal and then hold onto Green until the summer and see if you could get Booker for him and picks.

    Fox
    Booker
    Amen
    Bari
    Sengun

    That’s the goal.
     
  20. ceonwuka

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    Great points. Cap space is kind of pointless unless you can get up to a max slot. Fred MIGHT be tradeable around the draft depending on the pickup date of his option.
     

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