What other teams are in on KD? He makes so much that it is difficult for a contender to trade for him without gutting their roster. And he’s on a one year deal so if it doesn’t work the team could gut their roster for no reason. If a trade doesn’t happen, what are the chances of the Suns buying out KD? Maybe the Rockets could get him for just MLE money. I say the Rockets should stay patient and see what happens.
There would be no benefit whatsoever for Phoenix to buy out Durant. If there is no trade, he will play it out with the Suns. Durant is going to a contender somewhere. The price is going to be expiring contracts and a good pick. Most likely destinations are Houston or Miami in my opinion. He might even go to Boston if a 3rd team got involved.
That sounds like a wishful fantasy trade scenario from a Lakers fanatic, rather than an actual proposal from a Sports Illustrated reporter.
I don’t think KD makes Miami a contender. Sure they could make additional moves but that roster is FUNKY. Could the Suns use the stretch provision to spread KD’s salary across 4 years instead of taking it as one big hit? I just don’t see the point of trading FVV and #10 for KD. I think it’s an over pay. FVV doesn’t save the Suns much money (I think KOC is wrong about his contract. Pretty sure it becomes guaranteed if he is traded) and FVV is very important to the Rockets. I think the only thing the Rockets really need is a good 3rd guard to come off of the bench. If they had that last season then they probably would have won 56 or more games.
It’s complicated because of their 2nd apron status. You could probably do a multi-team deal that actually breaks down as two trades, the first one getting Cleveland below the apron so they could be a little more flexible. Trade 1 CLE out: Jarrett Allen LAL out: Gabe Vincent, Maxi Kleber, FRP HOU out: Landale CLE in: Maxi Kleber, FRP LAL in: Jarrett Allen HOU in: Gabe Vincent BKN in: Landale Lakers get the center they’ve been looking for, Cleveland gets under the apron, Nets get some picks thrown their way for facilitating. Trade 2 FVV + Reed + two FRP for Garland + Okoro It’s really one big trade but you break it down so get the Cavs below the apron and then aggregate. Maybe Landale goes back to Cleveland in the second trade. I could go for something like this.
I don't think his contract guarantees upon trade, but there is a trade kicker. I think Rox & FVV agreed to move back the option to June 29 so an acquiring team could decline the option if they wanted to. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/20778/fred-vanvleet
Is that your goal to win 56 games? Durant would give us a chance at contention. No matter what Phoenix is going to have to eat salary this upcoming season. If the Rockets use the team option on FVV he would be expiring and Phoenix could either trade him at the deadline or just let him walk. I disagree that FVV is important as a starter on the Rockets, but I think the opinions on him are split on him among fans on this forum. I think he would be a fine backup if Ime would play him as such. There is no reason for the Suns to use the stretch provision. Even if they could unload the entirety of Durant’s contract they would still be in luxury tax hell and second apron until they unload other contracts or until Beal’s contract comes off the books (in 2 years I believe). It’s a legitimate argument to think the #10 pick is an overpay for a Durant rental, I just don’t agree with it.
This information is inaccurate. The team option has to be picked up before the trade. The rest of the contract has been used up (i.e, for all intents and purposes, FVV's contract is over and can't be traded unless the team option is exercised or declined and then sign and traded). The extension to the team option was just to see if a team was willing to take FVV at the team option contract.
Agree to disagree on Durant. Obviously 56 wins isn’t the goal. I don’t think this team is too far away from contending as presently constructed.
Where are you getting your info? I am asking b/c I googled and used AI and nothing is coming up that has your info.
Lakers fans are completely delusional! "We gonna trade #17 pick in a weak draft for #10 pick ina deep draft" Yeah, uh, sure thing boys.
I listen to podcasts like Front Office, Game Theory, and the Zach Lowe Show. Front Office is really good with the rules and has been trying to correct the public and less informed media (e.g., Simmons) about this. However, a quick search: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45113195/giannis-trade-tiers-every-nba-team-offer-bucks (VanVleet cannot be traded unless the team option is exercised). Also...
Offer #10 & future rockets FRP for Keegan Murray. Package brooks & cam for Simons Package Landale, Holiday & Reed for Sexton & #21. Draft Sorber or Traore Fred/Sexton Green/Simons Amen/Keegan Tari/Bari Sengun/Adams/Sorber
The luxury tax isn't the boogie man anymore, the 2nd apron is the real killer. They are currently ~$8m above that 2A with 10 players under contract. Dumping Durant's entire contract into cap space would put them at $160m, that's ~47.6m Under the 2A and ~$35m under the 1A. That doesn't make them a better team but it does solve their financial problems in the short term. Yes, they'll probably be a tax team but the main goal is to get under that 2A and it's penalties. Problem is, there's only 3 teams with any cap space & only one who could take that in total. It's very unlikely that they dump the entire amount ($43.76m is the lowest amount a team could send out in return for the $54.7m contract) but even diverting half of the $43.76m gets them well under the 2A and it's likely they get a solid player or two for that amount and end up 13.86m under the 2A and within a couple million of the 1A. Again, it doesn't necessarily make them better .... but it puts them in a much better financial situation going forward.
I expect Durant to one team, a Jalen Green-sized contract going to Phoenix, and a 3rd team involved taking some salary into an exception along with swapping some small contracts to make salary matching work. Phoenix is a 1st apron team cutting about $20M in salary.
Feels like one too many FRPs to give up (since we're also losing Reed). Maybe if the second one is like a protected 2031 Rockets pick or something. Otherwise a pretty interesting/creative structure to get something done
