Virtually every NBA coach disagrees with you. You are approaching DD level of player evaluation or maybe you’re just a BTG level troll.
I think Amen is a gym rat who has been diligently working on his shooting with professional coaches for several years now. I think this is it for him shooting-wise and there's no reason to believe anything different.
Yeah, we're going to have to agree to disagree. Amen, in my opinion, is far and away our best prospect. And his shot is already improving -- he's shooting .32 from 3 the last 20 games.
lol you've been waiting for him to have a few consecutive rough games to come out with this one, huh? You're welcome to your opinion, but IMO Amen has been proving you wrong all year. Hopefully he's about to do so again.
I'm honestly baffled that anyone can watch Amen recently and not realize that his overall shooting is significantly improving. Here's his shot chart from last season: And here's his chart over the last 15 games of the regular season:
We can respectfully disagree, because that's part of the fun here. However, whenever Amen hits a 3 it's because the other team is making zero effort to guard him. His negative gravity is tilting the entire defense against the rest of our team. So even if he shows marginal improvement from 3, every shot he takes from there is a win for the other team. Therefore you can't compare his 3pt percentage to someone like Fred or Jalen - they're taken from the same line, but they are very different shots.
You can disagree all you want, but the fact is Amen has substantially improved in virtually every shooting metric as compared to last season, and even has improved over the course of this season, so the belief that he won't continue to improve is borne more from bias than reality.
Nah, I've been saying that I like Bari better all year. And I don't dispute that Amen has some value - I just don't think he's some kind of untouchable cornerstone. Let's see what happens tonight - I'll circle back to you. I would love to be proven wrong - we're on the same side here.
What has been proven wrong? I think it likely Furious Jam has watched the Rockets a lot. I suspect Amen had different shooting coaches at OTE and with the Rockets. Furious Jam may be wrong about the future, but that hasn't been proven wrong. The Warriors are making three-point shots and are packing the paint with Draymond often committing , but not getting called for 3 second violations by not guarding Amen. It is hard to match 3s with 2s. Amen was able to make teams pay in the regular season, but that has not been the case in the playoffs so far. On gadget player, Amen is great at defense and excels at playing different roles while playing different than most players. The connotation of a gadget player may be negative, but for the regular season Amen provided a lot of positive value in the role of a gadget player. Be upset with the tone of what he said or oversimplification if you want. Disagree with what Amen will become (I do). On what has happened and can be proven wrong, Amen is not a good shooter, is very versatile, and plays great defense. I don't think that has been proven wrong based on what has happened.
Is Amen a good shooter? No. No one is claiming he is. But, that’s not what Furious Jam stated. He claimed Amen likely will not improve. And yes, Amen has proven him wrong — Amen has significantly improved this season as a shooter.
What I meant was that he's been getting better most of the year at both shooting and his overall offensive contributions. His trajectory has all been upward and he's shown over and over again that he's capable of improving his offensive contributions and becoming more valuable on that end. He's having a bad playoffs, which I'd argue is not surprising since he has the least amount of NBA experience of all our rotation players. But on the season overall he's clearly trending toward being a very valuable offensive player.
He’s a Trojan horse. They will give him Andrew Wiggins money. Then, he will open up and out will pour year after year of 12/7/1.
Amen has also been schemed out of the offense by maybe the best coach in the league. The Rockets are very dependent on athleticism and out hustling other teams to win. We don’t have the personnel or the coach to effectively counter Kerr’s moves. Most of us knew that Ime would be outcoached in this series, but I think many of us, including me, did not expect Amen to be affected by nerves or that FVV would be this awful. I also didn’t think Ime would be stupid enough to absolutely bench some of his depth like Holiday, Tate and Jeff Green all 3 of which could have changed the complexion of some of these games.
I think that is a valid POV. I think Amen will improve. I can't guarantee it. Furous Jam having a difference of opinion on what will happen, does not deserve the vitriol he's receiving. He claimed that he doesn't see a leap coming. Improvement is typically not linear and what has happened in the past does not prove improvement will occur in the future. Outside of time travel, it is impossible to prove what will happen in the future. On the things that have happened and can be proven wrong, Maybe Amen didn't have shooting coaches at OTE. Other than that, Amen is a poor shooter that Ime was able to get a ton of value out of during the regular season playing him in a variety of roles. In the postseason, the offense has grinded to a halt and the gimmick GSW are doing is playing off Amen. FVV and most the team shooting poorly even by their standards isn't helping.
I didn’t realize Tate was unavailable, my bad. That also makes me less aggravated at Ime, because I thought Tate would’ve been the best guy to create some havoc and provide some hard fouls and hustle to get GSW into their heads a bit. I still think Ime’s use of FVV has been criminal.
To be clear, I am not saying I would be all for this, but here's an idea: Rockets In: Giannis Jaren Jackson Jr. Rockets Out: Sengun Cam Whitmore Picks Bucks in: Morant FVV Pick Bucks Out: Giannis Kuzma (salary) Memphis In: Sengun Cam Whitmore Kuzma Pick Memphis Out: Morant Jaren Jackson Jr Rockets Starting 5: JJJ/Giannis/Jabari/Green/Amen Adams/Tari/Brooks/Free Agent/Reed Why Rockets do it: They get their #1 option with 2 stretch two-way players to open up the court for Giannis. Impossible to score against this team. Long and athletic. If Amen and Giannis struggles together, which is possible due to spacing, put Reed in and continue to develop Amen into the star he is capable of being eventually taking the keys from Giannis as he loses his athleticism. Rockets get to keep their best prospect in Amen. We also keep teams like OKC or Spurs from getting Giannis Why Rockets don't do it: Their best young player this year is Sengun. He was an all-star and will keep improving. Giannis' game doesn't project to age well. Why Memphis does it: They get to "restart" without really needing to rebuild via a tank. They're ready to move on from Ja and Sengun is an up and coming star Why Bucks do it: Giannis wants out and Bucks don't have control of their picks for quite a while. They can't tank, so they need the best 'star' on the market. FVV and Morant would pair well in the backcourt together. I originally had Green going out, but struggled building around Giannis so I kept Green and used Sengun/pick while adding JJJ
Forget it guys Nick Wright says the Spurs are getting him https://airalamo.com/giannis-spurs-smoke-increases-popular-tv-host-new-trade-proposal
Giannis/Wemby pairing is my biggest fear. Rockets have an advantage on most trade proposals coming from Spurs to a team like the Bucks who has no control over their picks for years.
