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Random Trade Thread 2023-24

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 10, 2023.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    These are unimportant imaginary things. If Green's value falls, it's because he's not playing well and someone else is playing better. We keep the one playing better and we trade the one playing worse. It's really that simple. We're not trying to win GM of the year, we're trying to win the NBA Finals. You win by keeping the best players.

    Amen is 6'7 and can guard 1-3. It does not make any sense to trade a person you say is worth 4-5 FRP's. We would 100% keep any SG worth 4-5 FRP's. We wouldn't trade them just because we think a rookie who has never played an NBA game might possibly in the future outplay him.

    It's very simple. You just watch what happens. It's the worst possible time to move him. None of the things you're worried about matter more than watching Green, Amen, KPJ and FVV play NBA games to determine who's best. FVV will be off the cap by the time Jalen's extension would kick in anyway. There's no risk.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    If Brooks is taking shots away from Green or Sengun or Jabari then God help this organization because it is lost and needs to burn in a pit of fire.
     
  3. fattz

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    It’s all about risk. Hanging on to players to long is poor management. (See Eric Gordon). Green is worth that now because the “untapped potential” is still “untapped” trade deadline we will know. We shouldn’t keep him anyway => Sengun, Smith & Thompson are our max players. Moving Green now for FRPs means we can feed SS&T with youth for years to come. We may even get lucky and find something more in the future.
     
  4. fattz

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    That is one prospective.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Every one of our young guys have untapped potential?

    Like what are you even talking about? Why are you comparing Green to Gordon? What?
     
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    It’s a stupid take. What do we even want with a bunch of picks? Cam has a medical history that scared off 15 teams. Green showed flashes and set mulitple records for players under 20. I love Amen, but they don’t play the same position. We have an incredible bunch of potential star players that have never played for a decent NBA coach and they still have plenty of draft picks and cap space flexibility. There are exactly zero GM’s in the league that would give up on Green this year.
     
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  7. fattz

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    IMO, Green is about to be exposed as a very limited player. The untapped is going get tapped. His trade value will drop when he is viewed as rich man’s VonWafer.
    Taking his trade value from 4 to 5 FRPs to almost nothing. I believe Stone not only got less for Eric Gordon than he once could have he hurt the team as well. Holding on is not a good thing
     
  8. ApacheWarrior

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    Brooks and VanVleet

    VanVleet is also one of the worst efficient shooters over the years.

    Having one bad shooter is bad....but having two of the poorest shooters
    can be a death sentence on your season.
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    I'm sorry you feel that way
     
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  10. ApacheWarrior

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    VanVleet the last 4 seasons as starter

    19/20: 14.3 (FGA per game).....41.3% (FG%)
    20/21: 16.7 (FGA per game).....38.9% (FG%)
    21/22: 16.9 (FGA per game).....40.3% (FG%)
    22/23: 16.1 (FGA per game) ....39.3% (FG%) they claim its
    because of injuries in 22/23, but what about the previous 3 seasons?

    VanVleet has averaged (the last 4 years as starter):
    16.0 (FGA's)...@......39.95% (FG%)

    @fchowd0311

    I'd rather roll the dice with Amen. Trade VanVleet ASAP
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Its a bit out of context because the dude averages around 9 attempts from three a game for that stretch at around 37% which is decent.
     
  12. fattz

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    Thank you,

    Green is not the chosen one why not move him for today’s value?

    I want to be wrong but I don’t think I am.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    I'm sorry you feel this way.
     
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    Despite all of the issues we have with Green, there is nothing Brooks does better than him on offense. If Brooks is suffocating Green on offense, that is an issue for Udoka to address, which I believe he would.
     
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  15. ApacheWarrior

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    So we got FVv for spacing?

    5'11" player....Cam Johnson was like 40% on 6 or
    more attempts I believe.

    FVv was 35.0% on C-n-S 3's last year 4.3 attempts 52.0 eFG%
    KPj was 43.5% on C-n-S 3's last year 1.9 attempts 63.3 eFG%

    Good news is Dillon was:
    35.6% on C-n-S 3's and 51.2 eFG%
    Bad news is Dillon was:
    32.6% on six 3's per game.

    You are going to have to show me a team that had two starters
    that shot that bad: Dillon 39.6% (FG%) and Fred 39.3% (FG%).
    I'll show you an unsuccessful team.

    Dillon last 4 seasons:
    19/20 : 40.7 (FG%)
    20/21 : 41.9 (FG%)
    21/22 : 43.2 (FG%)
    22/23 : 39.6 (FG%)
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    Spacing and just being a really competent floor general and guard defender
     
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    I want you to be wrong and I think you are.
     
  18. hlmbasketball

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    Rockets need another big and if Whitmore continues to impress in Pre-Season, Tate definitely becomes expendable in a trade.

    I really, really like Mayer and McGee but there's only so many players and so many minutes. But Mayer is definitely a keeper!
     
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  19. hlmbasketball

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    Rockets need another big and if Whitmore continues to impress in Pre-Season, Tate definitely becomes expendable in a trade.

    I really, really like Mayer and McGee but there's only so many players and so many minutes. But Mayer is definitely a keeper!
     
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  20. Believe It!

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    The Suns aquired three 2nd Rd picks from Orlando for a 1st Rd swap. Why is Stone not making these type deals?
     

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