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Random Trade Ideas 2021-22

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jun 3, 2021.

  1. DrNuegebauer

    DrNuegebauer Member

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    All day. Would be a great trade - essentially converts dead salary to a position of need, and upgrades an expired Olynyk to a genuine stopper in the middle, which clears some of the 'confusion' around where Wood and Olynyk fit on the floor (if KO stayed)

    Also gives Sengun a genuine presence to practice against, and learn from.
     
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  2. ThatBoyNick

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    Gordon to Mavs for Powell, WCS(waived)

    Wall to Clippers for Kennard, Beverley, Rondo(waived)

    Re-sign Olynyk 2/30, Nwaba 2/15

    Sign Oliver to a 2-Way deal

    Porter / Beverley / Augustin
    Green / Kennard / Christopher
    Martin / Nwaba / Thomas
    Olynyk / Tate / Garuba
    Wood / Powell / Sengun

    Small no more
     
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  3. ROXTXIA

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    Well, now you will be Master of your Domain, anyway, so there's that.
     
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  4. D-rock

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    Get yourself out of there as soon as you can man!!

    Can't chase that Venezuelan on your ace. :D
     
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  5. baller4life315

    baller4life315 Contributing Member

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    Houston trades: Gordon
    Houston receives: George Hill, Chris Boucher

    Philly trades: Hill, Simmons
    Philly receives: Anunoby, Siakam

    Toronto trades: Boucher, Anunoby, Siakam
    Toronto receives: Simmons, Gordon

    Toronto takes the Simmons gamble and moves Siakam, like they’ve been trying to do.

    Philly rids themselves of Simmons, while taking on two highly capable two-way players. Curry/OG/Harris/Siakam/Embiid might be an odd fit, but there’s enough talent there for a deep playoff run.

    We move EG’s contract, keep Boucher and waive Hill prior to 8/3 when his contract becomes fully guaranteed.
     
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  6. Adiano-Malko

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    Gotta love PKs haha
     
  7. jch1911

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    As we prepare for Free Agency Eve 2021, I thought I would share some projections (made while d@mn near sedated and it shows)

    Projected Trades (My opinion / thoughts so let’s just leave it there)

    I think Simmons ends up on 1 of 4 teams – TOR, POR, GSW, SAC
    PHI McCollum + 2 FRP POR (2022, 2024) + 2 POR pick swaps (2023, 2025)
    POR Simmons
    POR gives up draft capital b/c (1) either will be low picks or (2) can get it back by trading Lillard if the fail yo win an Nb title… again

    CLE: S&T Zach Collins + Derek Jones Jr.
    POR: Kevin Love
    Love back in Portland is a feel good story and helps with the inevitable Lillard trade

    GSW Siakam
    TOR Kuminga + Wiggins + 2022 GSW FRP (lotto protected) + 2022 TOR SRP (via GSW)

    LAC Ball
    NOP Beverley + Kinnard + SAC SRP via LAC
    The logo works his magic again

    OKC Knox + 2022 NY FRP (lottery protected)
    NY Walker

    OKC Hield
    SAC lower 2022 FRP (LAC or MIA) + lower 2023 FRP (LAC or DEN) + lower 2024 (LAC or HOU)

    LAL creates $20M TPE
    SAC S&T Schroder into Hield $24M TPE
    Not sure if this skirts the CBA

    UTH Maxey
    PHI S&T Niang into exception

    ORL Hood into TPE
    TOR 2022 SRP

    BRK Harrell
    WSH S&T Dinwiddie + Jordan

    IND S&T Olynyk – Gordon + House + 2022 HOU FRP (lottery protected) + 2 OKC SRP (2022, 2024)
    HOU Turner + $18M ishTPE
    OKC Lamb

    UTH Parker fits into an exception
    BOS future SRP

    OKC Culver
    MN Bledsoe
    MEM Deck

    MIA: S&T Lowry
    DAL: Dragic
    TOR: Achiuwa + MIA 2024 FRP (lottery protected) + DAL 2022 SRP (protected 31 – 40)

    HOU S&T Thies
    CHI Wall

    Projected Depth Charts
    Some teams have incomplete rosters because… yeah… they just do… I’m tired

    ATL
    Young – Bogdanovic – Reddish – Collins – Capela
    Wright / Williams – Huerter / Snell –Johnson / Hunter – Gallinari / Knight – Okungwu / Thompson

    BOS
    Smart – Richardson – J. Brown – Tatum – Williams III
    Dunn / Mills / Pritchard – Edwards / Langford – Nesmith – G. Williams / Ojeleye – Horford / Fall

    BRK
    Irving – Harden – Harris – Durant – Harrell
    Carter / Chiozza – B. Brown / Thomas – Lawuwu- Caberet / Edwards – Green / Griffin – Claxton / Perry

    CHA
    Ball – Fournier – Hayward – Washington – Jones +1
    Rozier / Graham – Bouknight / Martin - Martin / Bridges – McDaniels – Carey / Plumlee

    CHI
    Wall – LaVine – Williams – Young – Vucevic
    White / Arciadiacono – Satoransky / Dosunmu – Iguodala / T. Brown – Bjelica / Aminu – Kornet / Biyombo

    CLE
    Garland – Jones – Nance Jr. – Mobley – Allen
    Rubio / Payton – Okoro / Windler – Prince / Osman – Wade / Stevens – Collins / Kabengele

    DAL +1
    Dragic – Doncic – Hardaway – Porzingis – Powell
    Brunson / Burke – Brown / Green – Finney-Smith – Kleber / Cauley-Stein – Marjonovic / M. Brown

    DEN
    Murray – Barton – Porter Jr. – Gordon – Jokic
    Morris / Campazzo – Hyland / Rivers / Dozier – Millsap / Green – Nnaji – McGee / Bol

    DET Dennis Smith / Cory Joseph +3; sign DJ Wilson
    Hayes – Bey – Cunningham – Grant – Stewart
    Bradley – Diallo / Jackson – Doumbouya / Wilson – Thor / Livers – Okafor / Garza

    GSW
    Curry – Thompson – Siakam – Green – Wiseman
    Payton II / Poole /Harrison – Moody / Lee – Bazemore / Toscano-Anderson – Paschall – Looney / Bell

    HOU
    Porter Jr – Green – Winslow – Wood – Turner
    Augustin / Thomas – Brooks / Christopher – Tate / Nwaba – Martin Jr / Theis – Garuba / Sengun

    IND +1
    Brogdon – LeVert – Warren – Sabonis – Olynyk
    Sumner / McConnell – Gordon / Duarte – House / Holiday – Jackson / McDermott - Bitadze

    LAC
    Ball – George – Leonard –Ibaka – Zubac
    Rondo / Jackson / Ferrell – Mann – Batum / K. Johnson – Morris / Patterson– Cousins / Oturu

    LAL +1
    Westbrook – Derozan (TPMLE) – James – Davis – Gasol
    Caruso / Talen Horton-Tucker – Ariza / Mclemore – Gay / Morris – Anthony – Drummond / W. Hermangomez

    MEM
    Morant – Brooks – Anderson – Jackson – Valanciunas
    Jones /– Melton / Allen / Okogie – Bane – Konchar / Murphy / Culver – Layman / Clarke – Tillman / Aldama

    MIA +3
    Lowry – Oladipo – Butler –– Robinson – Adebayo
    Nunn / Vincent / Exum – Herro / Burks – Okpala – Dedmon / Leaf – Yertseven

    MIL
    Holiday – Connaughton – Middleton – G. Antetokounmpo – B. Lopez
    Teague / Joseph – DiVincenzo / Forbes – T. Antetikounmpo – Tucker / Diatke – Collins / R. Lopez

    MN +1
    Russell – Beasley – Edwards – Prince – Anthony-Towns
    Bledsoe / McLaughlin – Okogie / Balmaro – McDaniels / Layman – Hernangomez / Vanderbilt – Reid / Davis

    NOP
    Sexton – Alexander-Walker – Ingram – Zion – Valanciunas
    Beverley / Lewis Jr. – Hart / Williams – Kennard / Bates-Dip – Iwundu / Marshall – Hayes / Johnson

    NY
    Walker – Barrett – Oubre Jr. – Randle – Robinson
    Rose / Vildoza / McBride – Redick / Quiqley / Grimes – Bullock – Toppin / Gibson – Noel

    OKC 1
    Giddey – SGA – Hield – Portis – Bradley
    Mann / Jerome – Dort / Maledon / Lamb – Knox / Roby – Bazley / Pokusevski – Favors / Muscala

    ORL+1
    Anthony – Suggs – F. Wagner –– Isaac – Carter
    Fultz / Carter-Williams / Hampton – Harris / Ross – Hood / Ennis – Okeke / M. Wagner – Bamba

    PHI +1
    McCollum – Curry – Green – Harris – Embiid
    Milton / Springer – Korkmaz / Joe – Niang / Thybulle – Scott / Reed –Tolliver / Howard

    PHO
    Paul – Booker – Bridges – Crowder – Ayton
    Shamet / Payne – Moore / Galloway – Johnson / Craig – Saric / Smith / Diallo – Sharpe / Kaminsky

    POR
    Lillard – Powell – Simmons – Love – Nurkic
    Simons –– Monk / Valentine – Hollis-Jefferson / Little – Covington / Brown – Kanter / Giles

    SAC
    Schroder – Fox – Barnes – Bagley – Holmes
    Mitchell / Haliburton / Ntilikina – Davis / Guy – King / Woodard – Metu – Whiteside / Jones

    SAS
    Murray –– Walker – Johnson –Markkanen– Poeltl
    White / Jones – Vassel / Primo – Porter / Wieskamp – Saminic / Eubanks / Lyles – Gieng

    TOR
    Van Vleet – Trent – Wiggins – Barnes – Baynes
    Flynn / Banton – Watanabe / Thomas – Kuminga / Johnson – Anunoby / Achiuwa – Boucher / Birch

    UTH
    Conley – Mitchell – Bogdonavic – Ingles –Gobert
    Clarkson / Hill – Maxey / Hughes / Forrest – Neale / Parker - Brantley – Azubuike / Oni

    WSH
    Dinwiddie – Beal – Kuzma– Huchimura – Bryant (IR) Jordan
    Neto / Smith Jr. – KCP / Kispert – Avdija / Hutchison – Bertans – Gafford / Len

    I am tired.... this is a mess... nap time... G'night
     
  8. CHAMPBOY

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    No!!! You cannot have Olynyk and Wood on the floor at the same time because both of them are offensive guys. You would need a someone who can block shots and get rebounds....Last year.....both of them can shot but no defense at the other end.
    Keep Gordon, When Green has a bad or off night he can quickly come in and bail us out. He can easily average 16 to 19 points a game.
     
  9. Rudyc281

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    Marcus smart anyone?? Maybe bring him along with Theis??
     
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    No thanks
     
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  11. Rudyc281

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    Idk…smart just turned 27 and KPJ and green will need dogs like smart around them.
     
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    Kelly Olynyk is likely to have interest from Detroit, which needs another big after trading Mason Plumlee and could use his shooting. The key here is that the Pistons have enough cap room to pay him above the MLE, his likely price target from several other suitors. The Pistons also may bring back veteran Cory Joseph, even though they just waived him, as his price on a new deal will be significantly less than the contract they just expunged.

    1 hour ago – via John Hollinger @ The Athletic


    Guys, i see a sign and trade with Detroit....to get a player
     
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  13. saleem

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    He can be useful, but I would rather not add any further salary. It's hard to move EG and JW without adding multiple 1st round picks. That's a big no from all of us.
     
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    Please mention the player that may be acquired in return for him.
     
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    Just going to point out that Wall for Knox still works on NBA trade machine

    As does this trade
    LAC --> Wall (HOU)
    SAC --> Gordon (HOU) + Beverley (LAC) + Kennard (LAC) + lower of HOU's 2022 FRP
    HOU --> Hield (SAC)

    At this stage, I would take Beverley & Kennard with the knowledge that they can more easily be routed to other teams
     
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    It was a great idea.
     
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    I would use Tate as trade bait while that All-Rookie team is still fresh to help get rid of Wall. He is 25 years old and only 6’5 and to small to start at SF or PF with Garuba at 6’8. KJ is at least 6’6 and still young enough to possibly grow a inch or two more

    I’d use Tate + 2 of the early Brooklyn picks to move Wall to the Clippers for Beverly & whoever

    Then I would use the clippers return to help sweeten a Gordon trade to GSW for Oubre or something like that

    I want to see the boys play and willing to give a little extra and let the new era fully begin
     
  20. jch1911

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    My ideal scenario right now

    Trade on 8/6
    LAC: Wall (HOU)
    HOU: Beverley (LAC) buy out at $12M + creates $30Mish TPE (Beverley signs with hometown Bulls for vet min)
    ORL: Kennard (LAC) into TE + House (HOU) into TE + LAC 2022 2nd Helps ORL hit salary cap floor + pick up potential starting SFs (or at least depth pieces)


    Trade on 8/11
    HOU: Oshae Brissett (IND) into TE + pickup 2way SF
    IND: HOU 2025 2nd (protected 31-57) Pacers step back from LT line


    At trade deadline
    HOU: Myles Turner
    IND: Eric Gordon + Daniel Thies

    Roster
    PG KPJ - DJA - Thomas
    SG Green (2) - Brooks - Christopher (24)
    SF Brissett - Tate Nwaba
    PF Wood - KMJ - Winslow
    C Turner - Alperen Sengun (16) - Garuba (23)
    2-way: Hurt + ???
     

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