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Random Stats from Wins and Losses

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 25, 2003.

  1. jo mama

    jo mama Member

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    francis had 7 or more assists in a game only 32 times?
     
  2. heypartner

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    A quick look at some teams shows that the Team FG% and PPG win/loss differentials are pretty standard. For instance, Minn score 101.7 ppg on 48.4% in wins, and
    92.2ppg on 43.5% in losses.

    Check this out:

    Shawn Marion scores 23ppg on 49% in wins,
    and 18ppg on 40.8% in losses.

    btw: Dallas is 18-1 with Bradley has 4 or more blocks. That might not be as eye-popping as Yao's, because that's a team with a great record regardless, but still, they come close to going undefeated. To compare shot blockers from teams with a little closer record to us, Utah is 15-4 over two years when Ostertag gets 4 blocks. Ostertag and Kandi's teams combine for a 16-5 record this year in 4 block games.

    Blocking differentials don't seem to matter much when you are looking at players who always bring energy and are more consistent in blocking...like Mutombo or Wallace.
     
  3. Uprising

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    I like this scenario better. :D
     
  4. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I think it is very telling that Cat's fga is the same in wins and losses, while Francis's ppg is the same in wins and losses, despite attempting more shots in losses. Cat consistently shoots the same amount, with no consideration for his stats. He plays the exact role he has been given. Francis will do whatever it takes to maintain his stat line, no matter how poorly he is shooting.
     
  5. choujie

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    Ros has a 22-4 record when Yao blocked 3+ shots. Is that because of Yao's defensive precense or because of parameter defense? I think Yao always has a defensive presence. Teams except Lakers are tend to avoid attacking Yao when their outside shots are falling. When our parameter defense is working, they had no choice but to go inside and got blocked by Yao. There is a reason Cato averages more blocks than Yao per 48 minutes. When Yao sits on the bench, teams start to attacking the rim and Cato gets a lot blocks.
    My take is when Rox play good parameter defense they usually win.
     
  6. jo mama

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    marbury-59 times
    kidd-59 times
    stockton-55 times
    nash-48
    j. will-47
    miller-42
    francis-32
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Oh my God, Steve took a whole two more shots in losses than in wins.

    Even more ridiculous, he didn't take away from anyone elses shots. Yao Ming's field goal percentage goes down in losses on the same number of shots, I think that effects the team also. You guys are really reading to much into these stats.
     
  8. A-Train

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    Jason Kidd
    FGA in wins: 13.6, 46% shooting
    FGA in losses: 18.46, 36% shooting

    Stephon Marbury
    FGA in wins: 17.7, 44.8% shooting
    FGA in losses 20.1, 42.8% shooting

    Those greedy, selfish bastards!!!

    Anybody want to explain Steve's field goal attempts decreasing by over 3 per game after December with his turnovers also decreasing in the same time frame?

    Damn Clutch, just rename the thread "Steve Francis bashing thread #59976"
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Easily explainable A-Train, as others have suggested, he's clearly worried about stats. Oh wait, that doesn't make sense.
     
  10. A-Train

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    Yao Ming also had more field goal attempts and shot significantly less in losses than wins...I'm sure he was just tired, though...
     
  11. Sane

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    I think Yaogetting to know his body's limits (strength/stamina) and adding another PG to the team will radically improve this team.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    I think Cat's FG% and Yao's blocks tell the biggest story. It shows we need a solid interior defender.

    Cat's fg% or was it 3 pt% in wins is so much better. Plain and simple when we have someone hitting from the outside consistently we are better team. I don't just mean in wins, but in ball movement, spacing everything.

    Look at Glen Rices 3 pointers when we win and when lose. There is a huge difference. If we had someone who could do consistently what Glen Rice did sometimes, and wasn't a defensive liability we'd be set.
     
  13. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
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    A-Train,

    Are you comparing Yao's fga difference 9.7 and 9.9 (2%) and Francis' 15 and 17.5 (17%)? Some of your negativity is correct. But this one is reeeally stretching.
     
  14. KeepJuaquin

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    I noticed that too. ;)

    Kinda interesting facts.

    And yes. A consistent point guard would be great.
     
  15. francis 4 prez

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    i think A-Train is simply taking a more lighthearted approach to somewhat dissing yao while not saying francis is the devil that i and some others like to do every once in a while when we feel the guards (esp steve) are getting pounded on too much.
     
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    All we gotta do is tell Yao to block at least 3 a game and we're set! What's this talk about changing the team for anyway?:cool:
     
  17. OmegaSupreme

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    so basically clutch, your post is saying that everybody on the bbs is correct? that we need a pure pg, steve should move to the two, and that yao needs to bulk up.

    nice stats. it's not so hard to decipher what the problem is if you look at them for a split-second or so. rockets management is in strong need of balls.

    i have a stat:

    the rockets are 43 and 39 when boki plays 5.5 minutes of 14 games out of 82. :D
     
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  18. OmegaSupreme

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    your... not you're

    :p
     
  19. Dr of Dunk

    Dr of Dunk Clutch Crew

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    FYI, you can edit posts now.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    You guys are missing the most glaring stat:

    When Yao hits his 3's, we are unstoppable, if he misses, we are screwed.;)
     

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