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Random NBA Trade Ideas (2011-2012)

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by mrjohn, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    Here's a trade I'm worried about actually happening:

    Orlando trades:
    Dwight, Hedo, Jameer, Duhon, QRich
    Orlando receives:
    Pierce, Rondo, Garnett, Bradley, Johnson

    Boston trades:
    Pierce Rondo, Garnett, Bradley, Johnson
    Boston receives:
    Dwight, Hedo, Felton, Duhon, QRich

    Portland trades:
    Felton
    Portland receives:
    Jameer


    This trade could be quite possible with a tweak or two. Perhaps Portland gets a future pick for taking on another year of salary for Felton's expiring. Perhaps, Boston adds it's first rounder to either Orlando or Portland.

    Reasoning:
    Boston: Obviously, to get Dwight and sign DWill in the offseason.

    Orlando: Trade gives them a competitive team immediately. It also gets them under the cap after Garnett's contract expires at the end of the season, plus some nice young players.

    Portland:
    Pick up a young asset for Felton's expiring plus an adequate replacement (if not an upgrade) in Jameer.
     
  2. mrjohn

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    Interesting idea.

    What do you think about a deal surrounding Martin and Granger? Paul George looks ready to take over at SF. Both quasi-stars are underperforming a little.

    Martin, Scola, Hill for Granger, West (and Jones)?


    I could see that or Granger (NOLA born) and a first rounder for Chris Kaman and Eric Gordon (Indy born).
     
  3. Yung-T

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    Hedo, Jameer both have huge 5year deals, Duhon and QRich both with 4yr deals. This would basically make Boston the current Orlando Magic, no cap space and questionable players. Not happening.
     
  4. jopatmc

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    No, if you look at the trade I put together in detail, it leaves enough space for Boston to sign DWill to a max deal. That was precisely the reason for moving Jameer to Portland for Felton's expiring deal.


    DWill/Duhon
    Hedo/QRich
    Dwight

    Surrounded by minimim salary guys the first year, then able to add MLE contracts to their roster to fill it out and trade Hedo, Duhon, and QRich as expirings in a year.

    The reason I put this out there is Ainge is just the kind of GM to throw his chips in on making it work. And it may just be enough for Orlando, getting a couple of core guys for a couple years in Pierce and Rondo plus Garnett this season keeps them competitive this year plus it gives them cap space and the ability to rebuild after the season.

    Orlando may also be able to morph this deal into a larger deal with the Lakers sending out Garnett and Rondo for Pau and Bynum. Just think of it.
     
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    I think the ship has sailed on us acquiring Granger unless we are going to use Granger to acquire Howard. Or unless we are going to use Morris/Parsons/Budinger somehow to acquire an upgrade at the 5 and 4.

    I think Indy would do Granger for Martin in a second. Don't think we are interested in that right now.
     
  6. mrjohn

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    I know you think we have a shot at Howard. But if we don't get him I think this is a good trade. You think Martin is a good fit or better than Granger for Indiana - which helps my case. We get out of Scola's contract too - West has a short deal. Granger and West are defensive upgrades with good offense too. I like Parsons a lot but until he can become a 35%ish 3pt shooter and improve at the line is a liabilility on offense a little.

    Lowry, Bud, Granger, West, Sam. That's a terrific 5. And we know how good our bench is. Our next move would then be to package Parsons, Dalembert and Dragic for a big. Gortat perhaps?

    Then we would truely be a star-less contender: Starters - Lowry, Bud, Granger, West, Gortat. Bench: Lee, Morris, Patterson

    Do you agree with my logic / moves?
     
  7. jopatmc

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    No, Indy has NO incentive to do Scola for West. West is better right now. They would have incentive to do Granger for Martin since George is a 3. I think they would Granger/Martin straight up. I do not think they are interested in Scola for West.


    Lowry, Bud, Granger, West, Sam or Lowry, Bud, Granger, Scola, Sam is good enough to be a playoff seed without home court advantage most years. Dalembert is an enigma. He is not going to play well throughout the season and he is going to fold come playoff time if he ever makes the playoffs. He's not a first tier big. The rest of the guys are nice players but nowhere close to championship quality and probably not significantly better than what we are now.

    And I actually think it would be Lee in that lineup instead of Bud.
     
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    Novak, Melo, and Shumpert for Melo, Lou Williams and Andres Nocioni.
     
  11. mrjohn

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    Fixed.
     
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    I am bored. I've been watching college basketball all day and tinkering with the trade machine...

    No this doesn't even have a fraction of a percent chance of happening but....

    Orlando trades:
    Dwight Howard
    Ryan Anderson
    Hedo Turkoglu
    Jameer Nelson
    Glen Davis
    Jason Richardson
    Chris Duhon
    Quentin Richardson

    for

    Tyson Chandler
    Pau Gasol
    Anthony Morrow
    Jordan Farmar

    Why?
    If Orlando finally decides to give up hope for resigning Dwight (they won't) then they need to put together a deal that gets back talent while simultaneously clearing cap space of the countless AWFUL contracts that Otis Smith has signed over the last three years. While this trade is light on the first category (Gasol and Chandler are nice, but both are aging players towards the end of their prime) it absolutely obliterates the second desire of clearing cap space. With this trade, the Magic would be rid of every single bad contract on their entire roster... at the mere price of Dwight Howard and Ryan Anderson.

    New Jersey trades
    Deron Williams
    Anthony Morrow
    Jordan Farmar

    for

    Jeremy Lin
    Ryan Anderson
    J.R. Smith
    Landry Fields
    Toney Douglas
    Mike Bibby
    Steve Novak
    Troy Murphy
    Jason Kapono

    Why?
    This trade boils down to D. Williams for Lin, Anderson, Fields, and Smith. The rest of the pupu platter is all expiring deals. If New Jersey does not get Dwight Howard, you can bet your bottom dollar that Deron Williams is headed for Dallas. This trade is not even close to fair; however, since Williams can orchestrate which team he is traded to (by threatening not to sign a new deal/extension) then the suitors who are willing to rent him cannot offer much in return. At least this way the Nets get some young marketable talent in return and don't worry about effecting cap space for the foreseeable future.

    New York trades
    Tyson Chandler
    Amare Stoudemire
    Jeremy Lin
    J.R. Smith
    Landry Fields
    Iman Shumpert
    Steve Novak
    Mike Bibby
    Toney Douglas

    for

    Dwight Howard
    Deron Williams
    Glen Davis
    Jason Richardson
    Luke Walton
    Steve Blake
    Chris Duhon
    Quentin Richardson

    Why?
    I think that is obvious. Fire D'Antoni (exact wrong coach for what this squad should become) and a team with a core of Williams, Anthony, and Howard is a perfect foil to Miami's big three. Sure this comes at the expense of taking back every bad contract both the Magic AND the Lakers have, but when you print money like the Knicks and MSG network does you do this trade in a heartbeat.

    Los Angeles Lakers trade
    Pau Gasol
    Luke Walton
    Steve Blake
    Troy Murphy
    Jason Kapono

    for

    Amare Stoudemire
    Hedo Turkoglu
    Jameer Nelson
    Iman Shumpert

    Why?
    IIII don't know. They seem fairly desperate to rid themselves of Gasol. Amnesty Metta World Peace and this deal rids their current roster of all it's albatross contracts going forward... but takes on three bad contracts in the process. The Lakers are pathetic at PG and SF; Nelson and Turkoglu offer nice upgrades (despite what you might think, Hedo is having a very solid year and I think Nelson's shortcoming are mentally inspired by Howard. Not to mention Nelson's best attribute is that he is NOT Steve Blake or Derek Fisher) at their respective positions. Taking Stoudemire's contract is ridiculous, with his decline (free-fall, cliff-dive, whatever the most dramatic word you choose to use may be) and health a concern. BUUUUT... in THEORY... if Stoudemire could regain any semblance of his former self he would be the perfect addition to a Bryant/Bynum duo... working the weak side elbow extended, and not clogging up the middle for Bynum or lanes for cutters off of Bynum/Bryant/himself. The addition of Shumpert, coupled with moving Barnes out of the starting lineup, begins to address the Lakers nonexistent bench.

    Yes this trade checks out theoretically (thanks to the bump up to 150% money in/out differential in the new CBA) but it would never happen. Otis Smith is an idiot who does not take a little thing called the salary cap into consideration when he makes his moves, James Dolan and half of New York would be driven to murder at the mere mention of trading Lin (even though he probably is not even a top 15 (that is half the league) PG). L.A. would not take a risk on Stoudemire's healthy return to prominence. New Jersey... I don't know ever know what Billy King has in mind (not a good thing).

    BUUTTTT... if I were GM for all four of these teams I would be reasonably happy with the outcome for each team. Yes, this is how I spent half an our of my Saturday afternoon.
     
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  14. mrjohn

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    Amare, Douglas, and Walker for Rashard Lewis and Roger Mason.

    Knicks get out of amare deal - shorter contract with Lewis. Fix offense: permanent stretch 4 with Lewis/Novak, Tyson sole roller in pick in roll, opens space in post for Melo to play bully ball. Reduce crowdedness by doing a 3 for 2.

    Wizards can begin turning around ship. Addition of Amare allows them to trade / amnesty Blatche, Douglas and Walker allow Wiz to let Young go in offseason. Will not make playoffs this year but can add SG/sf in draft and become playoff contender going forward.
     

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