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Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2015-16

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. hooroo

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    Harden for Blake Griffin.
     
  2. Rockets_12

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    Honestly, I give Lawson until the end of the year, unless of course we can get a good trade that he'd have to be included for.

    Z-Bo stretches the floor. But remember, we need a PF who can box out as badly as we need a PF who can hit mid range jumpers.

    I'd be all in for a Courtney Lee reunion.

    Only downside is its Memphis we're talking about. Don't know if they'd trade with a division rival.

    Honestly, our best shot at a PF is Josh Smith. I think his situation in LA is going to boil...
     
  3. gogispade

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    I'd trade deckers dead body for smoove
     
  5. Rockets_12

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    Aren't Harden and Cousins really good friends?

    What if we traded a pick/TJ/Dwight to Sacramento for DeMarcus Cousins?

    Obviously not serious about it, I'm just throwing it out there to see what you guys think.
     
  6. digitallinh

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    I don't see anyone trading for Dwight unless they are assured he resigns, and even then. I don't see anyone giving up Cousins for Dwight.
     
  7. malakas

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    Ok let's say you can trade Scola for T.jones. And that takes for granted that Masai doesnt' want to pay Derozan because they will be hardpressed then paying both.
    What do you think we can give Boston for I.T? They are extremely happy with him and his contract. And they paid a first to get him too.
    For sure you don't think that Lawson has similar value with IT? Much worse contract much worse perfomance off court issues and awaiting multiple suspensions.
    Brew is worthless with his contract at his age, and his perfomance and him never beeing able to shoot. He is treading into negative value territory.

    The only team that would dare to do a trade like that would be a team with a very strong culture that has confidence that even with Dwights' past of leaving franchises, they can keep him. So basically only Boston and Chicago.
     
  8. basketballholic

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    IT is going to cost a first and probably have to be coupled with another player/player that is in Boston's favor. That's not worth it to us. IT is excellent but he's about 5'9" max out there. He is a huge defensive liability...especially next to Harden where his role is going to be as diminished as Lawson's is. If we can't get Lawson going offensively there is NO REASON to trade for another offensive point guard. It will simply cost us assets that we could better use and the conclusion of the matter will be a severely diminished player that we can't get value out of if we try to trade him back out.

    Lawson is a very good offensive point guard. But Harden has strapped this team down so tight by dominating so many possessions that he chokes out any other offensive point guards.

    The only way Lawson is going to be worth his $12+ million salary is if Harden moves off the ball when Lawson is in there.
     
  9. malakas

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    agreed and also IT is not like he's an elite shooter. The only good thing he has over lawson in terms of fit here, is that he has over the years and esp now accepted to come off the bench and knows how to be a 6th man.
    That's another adjustment Lawson has to make here. But it would be even worse trying to play IT and Harden together. Gross. Probably one of the worst fits I can think of next to Harden.
     
  10. ROXTXIA

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    I know this is just another stupid question, but why go after IT? Sure, he can score, but isn't it proven we need a specific type of point guard next to Harden? Maybe, one who can, yes, move the ball, but not dominate the ball? And who plays g.d. m.f.'ing defense?

    Avery Bradley would be a better fit.

    IT next to Harden would just make Harden loaf all the more, IF that's even possible.
     
  11. markelliott1997

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    We need to get someone like Avery Bradley or Brandon Knight and a powerforward like Markieff Morris. Dream is Mike Conley, and we should offer everyone we have for him.
     
  12. malakas

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    Avery Bradley will cost a first as well. Not a high first but a first in the middle. As he did in last year and his value has only gone up. (Plz don't forget when you try to make realistic trades who is the GM of each team. When the GM is someone like Uijiri or Ainge no matter what Morrey tries they wont' get involved in bad one sided trades).
    What we need is to find someone like Galloway. Knight, Bledsoe, Bradley, Conley, George Hill all those players will cost many assets to get or are not available.
    We dont' have good tradeable assets. In January we can only trade our 2018 first round due to the steppien rule or pick swap our 2017. But our first rounders aren't worth much in the first place.

    The Rockets assets at this moment are like that in my opinion :
    Harden: franchise player. Not in the market.

    Dwight : expiring age 30 center can't play B2B,history of leaving teams, very bad trade market. Only a couple of teams may be interested. {Chicago, Boston?}. The less teams interested the lower the value in the market.

    Ariza : worth a late lottery pick or a good young prospect. Extremely hard to replace due to not available wings. Will have most win now teams with holes at sf going after him if he hits the market.
    Lawson : worth scraps right now, no market for him.
    Capella : worth a first in the 20s. Not worth trading. His projected perfomance is more than his projected current value.
    DMO: ??? with injury, expiring , won't have time before trade deadline most likely to show worth after injury. Trade value lower than projected perfomance after ASW.
    T.Jones: With all his repeated small injuries he hasn't been able to play consistently well. Late first for a few target teams or good role players under contract.

    Bev: Neutral value at best.

    Brewer : Negative value. And the more he plays the more negative it seems to get.

    Kj: Needs playing time in the NBA to get value. Right now an early second by a gambler gm.

    Harrell : an early second.
    Thornton : filler worth only.
    Terry : filler worth only.
    Dekker : An early second maybe? Really not a market for him. Can be thrown in as incentive on a bigger trade. Not worth trading at this point.
    Ny second: too early to judge but has lost value than waht it was projected at the start of the year. (can easily end up at 46+).
    2017 Portland second and 2017 Denver second...If Gallo is traded this year the Denver 2017 second will get more value. Portland with their capspace and the rise of McCollum is mediocre. These assets are far in the future to project reliably and so dont have that good value in trades.


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    So really the best market by all our assets is for Ariza and the teams interested in him have to be win now which usually means they dont' have high picks.
     
  13. Liberon

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    How about that Gremlin point guard on the Atlanta Hawks? He is a back up but would be a great starting pg on the Rox.
     
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    Shroder?

    I'm down.
     
  15. eman

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    Dwight to Philly for Embiid, Stauskas, Carl Landry, and pick.
     
  16. malakas

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    Schroder is a pg who can't shoot well and needs the ball in his hands and also has some alarming characteristics that I'm not sure will make him fit well in this team. When a 21 y.o is that cocky ..I wonder how he would be next to Harden. Oh also he's also small. Not a midget like Lawson or IT but small. 6'1 at best.
     
  17. jonasXV

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    More like Dwight + Dmo + Decker.

    Or Dwight For Noah Straight up if we get Noah to commit ?
     
  18. basketballholic

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    Schroeder has the same length as Pat Beverley and Steph Curry. Slighter frame (which is going to yield him more stamina) but same length.

    He's basically Beverley with the ability to really break down the D and finish or dish on the PnR. Probably a better defender than Bev as well now since Bev has been hurt so much. And he's an ok spot-up, catch-and-shoot player, although not great. However, the form is there and he could become CP3 good at the catch-and-shoot.
     
  19. malakas

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    If Garpax are interested in Dwight which I'm not sure then you can probably get for him Noah+Taj Gibson + Sac pick (most likely won't transfer).
     
  20. malakas

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    Bev's good defence didn't come from his length. It came from his hustle. I have yet to see Shroder be such a pest defensively. If you compare him with current Bev then sure why not. Still not one of the best defensive pgs in the league.

    Ugh pairing Shroder with Harden..would be another disaster. Turnovers, who will want the ball, Shroeder and his aspirations already. Bad result.
     

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