Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2013-14

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kx439dy

PG:Rubio
SG:Sefolosha
SF:Melo
PF:Love
C:Howard

 

I don't disagree with that, but does Harden play well without the ball? I haven't seen it. He seems more of a one-on-one player, who needs the ball to be effective. McHale doesn't seem willing to change that, either, hence the Rockets 'give Harden the ball, and stand aside' offense in many late game situations.

Consider that the Rockets in those situations are the antithesis to the Spurs.

 

Celtics Receive: Omer Asik

76ers Receive: Jeremy Lin & Donatas Motiejunas

Rockets Receive: ~$8.4m trade exception via Celtics, Clippers 2015 1st round pick (via Celtics)

Rockets waive Omri Casspi
Francisco Garcia opts out

Terrence Jones + 25th pick in 2014 draft could be moved.

Opens up cap space for LeBron or Melo

_________________________________________________________________

Lets assume Lebron stays in Miami, Melo signs with Chicago, and Boston misses out on Kevin Love..

Report: Celtics will either get Kevin Love or likely trade Rajon Rondo

Celtics Receive: Omer Asik, Jeremy Lin, Terrence Jones, Donatas Motiejunas, 2014 1st round pick, 2014 2nd round pick (via Knicks), & 2016 1st round pick.

Rockets Receive: Rajon Rondo & Brandon Bass.

 

I don't see that happening. They would be giving up an All Star and a potential star. Which stars would they be getting back?

I also wouldn't place a really high value on the draft picks. An NBA first round pick in the high 20's is likely to be a decent role player, at best. Anything out of the top five is questionable as to their ability to even stay in the league. Remember that in the NFL, you can get to the second round, and still be picking the best player at any given position. In the NBA, that level of talent is gone in the first five picks. A pick in the high 20's is therefore like a fourth or fifth round NFL pick, or even lower.

 

I don't see that happening. They would be giving up an All Star and a potential star. Which stars would they be getting back?

I also wouldn't place a really high value on the draft picks. An NBA first round pick in the high 20's is likely to be a decent role player, at best. Anything out of the top five is questionable as to their ability to even stay in the league. Remember that in the NFL, you can get to the second round, and still be picking the best player at any given position. In the NBA, that level of talent is gone in the first five picks. A pick in the high 20's is therefore like a fourth or fifth round NFL pick, or even lower. Which does have value, but not really high.

FWIW, the same goes for comparing players in a trade. A handful of role players does not equate to one star. You can always find role players. Stars in the NBA are hard to come by. This is one area where fantasy playing does equate to real life, I think. If someone tries to trade you two players who get, say, 12-14 pts a game, that doesn't come close to equating to one player who scores 20, because there are usually other players putting up similar numbers available anyway. You have to look at the differential from average. Kevin Love is WAY above average. Getting even four or five average players back doesn't make Minnesota any better, and several of those players would likely be roster cuts anyway.

 

Magic IN: Omer Asik & Derrick Williams

Kings IN: Aaron Afflalo, Donatas Motiejunas, Ronnie Price, 2014 1st round pick via Rockets

Rockets IN: #8 overall pick in 2014 draft (via Kings)

 

Now that's an interesting trade.

 

Omer Asik to Pelicans for a future 1st

 

We sign Carmelo Anthony in free agency and are able to resign Chandler Parsons to a respectable contract with his bird rights. We'll then make the following trade:

Philadelphia Receives:

Omer Asik

Philadelphia Sends:

Thaddeus Young

Minnesota Receives:

Thaddeus Young
James Harden

Minnesota Sends:

Kevin Love
Kevin Martin

Houston Receives:

Kevin Love
Kevin Martin

Houston Sends:

Omer Asik
James Harden

The base of this makes sense. There would likely need to be a few picks coming to Minnesota to make it work, though, but all of that is ancillary.

Final roster:

Beverley/Lin
Martin/Daniels
Anthony/Parsons
Love/Jones
Howard/Motiejunas

 

Not sure how you sign Melo outright and not trade Asik and Lin for the space. Are you expecting him to take the MLE or the Bi?

 

Random trade questions:

1) Do you think the Knicks would prefer to lose Melo for nothing, or receive a package of T Jones, Asik and Lin in a sign and trade?

2) Obviously, if you can get rid of the money owed to Lin and Asik without giving up someone like Jones, you would want to do that -- however, my 2nd question is -- do you think the Rockets can move Lin and Asik's contracts for cheaper than T Jones as payment?

 

you have to have cap space first and then sign melo.

 

So the whole thing is contingent upon getting rid of Asik and Lin.

 

Yes,

Lin/Asik would be dealt first (along with D-mo and our 1st round pick, possibly T Jones too), the we sign Melo, then we can extend Parsons.

 

I know it might be unlikely that Phil Jackson helps us out by doing a sign-and-trade with us for carmelo, but if he did we could possibly get shumpert back as well. Carmelo would have to sign for the same amount that he is already getting paid (slightly under max).

Rockets get: Carmelo and Shumpert

Knicks get: Asik, Lin, D-Mo (or jones..), and they can throw in their first rounder if need be.

This would not only get us Carmelo, but would also get us some of that wing defense we all want so badly. It would also keep us over the line so we would still have our MLE to sign another key role player as well as some of the other exceptions we still have.

Lineup:

PG - Beverly
SG - Harden
SF - Parsons
PF - Carmelo
C - Howard

Bench:

Shumpert
D-mo/Jones
MLE backup center (or someone like Ariza, but will sign in the MLE)

Shumpert could also be the back up point guard in this situation, so we would just need to use the MLE for a back up PF/C if we still don't trust D-mo or Jones, or we could use it on a back up SF such as Ariza, if he will sign for that low (unlikely, i know).

 

And trade James Harden and filler to Minny for K. Love and K. Martin.

 

Interesting.

 

Harden Lin and asik for lebron or melo
Then sign lebron or melo

Beverly
Parsons
Melo
Lebron
Howard

 

rockets in - melo + shumpert

knicks in - lin + asik + parsons

bev
harden
parsons
melo
howard

change the whole culture of the team, hard nose hungry players & elite defenders at the 1,3,5 elite offense at 2,4

-dont play around with the bulls, trying to move players and get melo to take less etc. just make the trade move on. dont do what warriors are doing letting klay get in the way of love.

 

So in this scenario, would we just be trading Parsons' modeling contract to NYK? Morey...genius!!!