http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=me5jujv All the picks going to New York come form the Denver (that is why we are overpaying Denver)... Melo and Harden on the same team would not work, IMO. Remember the other teams have to say YES, too. salaries don't match
Lin + draft considerations (whether it's a protected first, combo of picks, whatever) for Lowry Asik straight up for Garnett Greg Smith + 2014 second rounder for Jae Crowder Waive Brewer to sign a Tyrus Thomas type as insurance at the 4/5 PG Lowry/Beverley/Brooks/Caanan SG Harden/Crowder SF Parsons/Garcia/Covington PF Jones/Garnett/Casspi/Thomas C Howard/(Garnett)/Motiejunas Eight man rotation: Lowry, Harden, Parsons, Jones, Howard with Crowder, Beverley and Garnett as the first three off of the bench. Could potentially make us one of the best defensive teams in the NBA. We would likely need to make another play for a reliable 3 pt shooter, but the idea here is: get a game-changing PG that could potentially put us over the top, all the while adding two other top-notch defensive players (Crowder/Garnett) and preserving 2015 cap flexibility. I get it: the Lowry deal is a HUGE gamble. It makes me uneasy also, but the way I figure is we're currently (and on pace to remain) a step below all of the legitimate contenders. Our record against the NBA's elite speaks for itself. A few transactions of this nature could definitely change things up.
I think we should do anything and everything to make this team enticing to Kevin Durant. If that means trade or keep Harden, I don't care. Personally if I am Durant, I want an elite point and an elite center. Howard/?Durant/Hardern/? or Howard/?/Durant/?/Rondo,Lillard, Wall? I'm not sure what he sees greater in his eyes but we need to be figuring it out
We should hold on to Lin/Asik and make a move for Kyrie when they expire. Can't afford 4 max contracts so Harden would be odd man out. Kyrie/Parsons/Durant/Jones/Howard
Jeremy Lin and Francisco Garcia are on the block... http://www.ibtimes.com/nba-trade-ru...francisco-garcia-involved-latest-news-1549960
Another option: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ov6nab3 Two separate trades, first: Rockets: IN: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Spencer Hawes Josh McRoberts OUT: Donatas Motiejunas Omer Asik Isaiah Canaan 76ers: IN: Ben Gordon Donatas Motiejunas Isaiah Canaan Bismack Biyombo 1st Rd pick via Charlotte OUT: Evan Turner Spencer Hawes Thadeus Young Bobcats: IN: Omer Asik Thadeus Young Evan Turner OUT: Ben Gordon Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Bismack Biyombo Josh McRoberts 1st Rd pick Second: Rockets: IN: Kyle Lowry OUT: Jeremy Lin 1st Rd pick Raptors: IN: Jeremy Lin 1st Rd pick OUT: Kyle Lowry
How about: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kvqztqm Asik, T.Jones, Brewer + 2014 1st rounder & rights to KPap for Millsap, Korver, Antic Lin, D-Mo, Canaan + 2016 1st rounder for Lowry, minimum salary fillers Howard Antic G.Smith Millsap Casspi Parsons Korver Garcia Harden Korver Lowry Beverley Brooks That team would be awesome. (and tough to keep together longterm, but still!)
Toronto will not want Jeremy Lin. Their GM isn't an idiot. This, however, works: Evan Turner (expiring contract) and Portland's 2014 first round pick (owed to Charlotte) to Toronto; Bismack Biyombo, Donatas Motiejunas, the rights to Kostas Papanikolau, one or two second round picks (from Houston), and the expiring contract of Ben Gordon to Philly; Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin to Charlotte; Kyle Lowry, Spencer Hawes, and Lavoy Allen to Houston. Toronto gets a first round pick plus Turner, who they'd look to quickly flip for something worthwhile in a separate trade, for a guy (Lowry) who they probably do not plan on re-signing this summer, anyway (thus, you take what you can get for him). Philly gets the young/cheap/underrated Biyombo, the young/cheap Motiejunas, and some assorted goods for three unrestricted free agents-to-be who THEY weren't going to re-sign. Again, you take what you can get. Charlotte gets two good veterans who will presumably solidify a playoff spot for a late first rounder and Biyombo, who they've soured on. This seems like something for mostly nothing at first glance until you consider that the number of teams willing to pay either Asik or Lin $15 mil in 2014-15 is pretty close to zero. Houston gets a huge upgrade at PG, a much better fit at backup PF/C, and the underrated Allen, plus they dump the massive Asik and Lin contracts. What's not to like? Revised Houston roster: The starting lineup PG Kyle Lowry (36 min/g) SG James Harden (36 min/g) SF Chandler Parsons (36 min/g) PF Terrence Jones (36 min/g) C Dwight Howard (36 min/g) The rest of the rotation Spencer Hawes (24 min/g) Patrick Beverley (24 min/g) Omri Casspi (12 min/g) The end of the bench Aaron Brooks Ronnie Brewer Francisco Garcia Greg Smith Lavoy Allen Stashed in the d-league Isaiah Canaan Robert Covington
Masai by all acounts does not appear to be an idiot, but he's also the guy who traded Nene for McGee and then signed McGee to a mega-deal. I don't think you can rule him trading for Lin out. Only with a first rounder and a prospect like D-Mo is attached to Lin, of course, but Masai appears to be opportunistic.
Maybe, but if Masai can get basically the same draft pick (Houston and Portland likely finish with similar W-L records this year), and avoid that massive amount of money owed to Lin in 2014-15, he'd rather do that. Also, he can likely get a Motiejunas-caliber prospect for Turner from somebody. Motiejunas is not exactly a prized commodity at this stage. I was very high on Javale McGee a couple of years ago and believe he would've turned out differently under a coach besides George Karl. I suspect Masai wanted to fire Karl a long time ago, but ownership sided with Karl, which is why Masai bolted for Toronto. Just a theory but I think I'm right.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=leq87lb Houston out: asik/brewer Houston in: Ariza/seraphin/2nd Washington out: Ariza/seraphin/2nd Washington in: asik/brewer Ariza becomes Garcia replacement and our wring defender. He is very stout at perimeter defense and has been stroking this year from deep which should continue here. Seraphin should be good for about ten minutes a game. Both are expiring contracts and added flexibility along with an added future 2nd. For Washington they gain a year and a half of a dominate defensive center to go along with gortat. Sort of an offensive and defensive rotation. Its also insurance in case gortat walks this off season which is likely. Brewer is just salary filler and an expiring.
Reuinited, and it feels so goood... HOU out: Lin, DMo, Asik, Brewer HOU in: Lowry, PPat, Chuckwagon, Novak TOR out: Lowry, PPat, Chuckwagon, Novak TOR in: Lin, DMo, Thad Young PHI out: Thad Young PHI in: Asik
Houston Rockets get: Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes, Novak, Tony Wroten, and Jason Richardson 76ers get: Asik, John Salmons, and Kyle Lowry.. Toronto get: Thad Young, Lin, Fransisco Garcia, Omri Casspi Phoenix get: Greg Smith
Lowry The player: Kyle Lowry Lowry, who will be 28 in March, is a small but sturdy point guard with a great first step and good basketball instincts. A vocal leader on the floor, Lowry straddles the line between "shoot-first" and "pass-first". He's aggressive in the pick-and-roll, looking to turn the corner and either get to the rim or force the defense to react and collapse, creating passing lanes. An adept passer with either hand, Lowry does a good job of checking off his passing options, and he will seek to find the roll man, weakside fill guys or shooters in the corners. He's not shy about pulling up for the jumper all the way out to the 3-point line and has steadily decreased his diet of shots from midrange over the years (either trying to get to the rim or pulling up from deep) and has made great strides in improving his accuracy outside the arc, shooting a career-high 40 percent this season. Lowry's dribble penetration excels because of his compact stature, which allows him to keep his dribble low and tight. Combined with his first step and strong frame, he can get to the rim and finish through contact (shooting 59 percent in the restricted area). It also highlights one of his strong suits as a point guard: He rarely turns the ball over. Lowry's turnover percentage is less than 10 percent, which is remarkable for a player who handles the ball as much as he does and assists on 34 percent of his team's made field goals. Defensively, Lowry has the reputation of a bulldog, but that has subsided somewhat with his larger emphasis on offense. He has active hands on defense, though, and will look to strip the ball low if he's being posted up by a bigger opponent. He's not as committed as he once was to fighting over screens and staying solid on iso defense, choosing to call for switches or allowing his man to blow by him and then trying to poke the ball. But he's a smart defender, and he does a good job of peeling if picked off and cracking back to the big if beaten by his man instead of giving up on the play. Lowry is a fiery competitor who doesn't have an off switch, which makes him a very good player but can also rub players and staff the wrong way at times. I saw Lowry play in a semi-organized pickup game at Villanova a few years ago and was equally taken aback by how hard he competed in such an informal environment and how hard he chewed out the volunteer referees on seemingly benign calls. The trade fit: Houston At 29-17, the Rockets are having a decent season, but decent isn't quite good enough in the hypercompetitive Western Conference, so they find themselves 2.5 games behind the Clippers for home-court advantage and just 3 games ahead of Dallas for the No. 8 seed. They've had issues shoring up their perimeter defense, starting Patrick Beverley for much of the season despite his inconsistent 3-point shooting, a necessity in the Houston offense. The Rockets also have dealt with injuries in their backcourt, with Beverley, James Harden and Jeremy Lin missing time. Adding Lowry would give them a two-way player at point guard who can halt the deluge of dribble penetration from that position while remaining an offensive threat by 3-point shot or dribble. It should be noted that Houston already had Lowry and is well aware of his personality quirks. There was friction with coach Kevin McHale toward the end of Lowry's tenure in Houston, but much of this was centered on Lowry's loss of his starting role after returning from a bacterial infection that kept him sidelined for 15 games. After that, Lowry saw a 50 percent reduction in his minutes (from 35 to 18), field goal attempts (12.1 to 6.0) and points per game (15.9 to 7.4). Given how hard Lowry competes, it's easy to see how he would have been taken such a demotion badly, but there's no reason to believe both parties can't let bygones be bygones and move forward, especially with Lowry having the ability to play a significant role in Houston. Although the Raptors are deep in the playoff chase, they face a very real dilemma with Lowry's contract status. Because he is an unrestricted free agent, they stand a chance of losing him without compensation, and thus the assumption Toronto will look to move him but also get a good haul in return. However, because of that expiring contract, teams are hesitant to give up significant assets for the same risk of losing Lowry, thus limiting what Toronto can expect in return, even if he makes the All-Star team. So, for the Raptors, there are two questions: 1. Could moving Lowry mean missing the playoffs? 2. Would we rather get something for him rather than risk getting nothing? The trade Houston sends to Toronto: Jeremy Lin, Ronnie Brewer, a 2014 second-round pick (via N.Y.), and the less favorable of 2015 second-round pick (via N.Y.) and the 2015 second-round pick owed to Houston from Minnesota (which in turn is the less favorable of Minnesota and Denver second-round picks), plus cash considerations Toronto sends to Houston: Kyle Lowry, Austin Daye Houston has been trying to jettison Lin's contract for two reasons: The Rockets owe him $8.4 million on the books (which eats into their projected cap space), and he is owed a cash payment of almost $15 million. Despite bouncing back with a stronger statistical season offensively, his defensive struggles make it tough to play him and Harden at the same time because Harden is so limited defensively, as well. Trading Lin frees Houston from financial obligations in the future while bringing back a complete player in Lowry. Daye as a throw-in gives the Rockets a limited liability look at a gifted shooter with length who hasn't been able to make good on his draft-day promise; if he doesn't work out, his contract is guaranteed for only $250,000 next year. For the Raptors, Lin's contract can be somewhat problematic. Although the coffers of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment can easily foot the cash bill for Lin's balloon payment, the $8.4 million cap hit eats into their cap space for next year. Still, he's a productive point guard who can be an engine for the Toronto offense, particularly with pick-and-roll-heavy sets with Amir Johnson and Jonas Valanciunas. Lin's popularity in Toronto doesn't hurt as a fringe benefit, and he'd also be reuniting with ex-Knicks teammates Steve Novak and Landry Fields. Brewer's contract is completely nonguaranteed next year, so he is, in essence, an expiring deal. But the real assets are the second-round picks. Because the draft order in the second round goes by raw record (and not by non-playoff teams followed by playoff teams, as it does in the first round), the Knicks' 2014 second-rounder becomes highly coveted as a possible top-10 pick in the second round (high second-rounders offer the value of comparable talent to the bottom of the first round without the restrictions and fixed costs of a rookie scale deal). Toronto is unlikely to find the first-round pick it seeks for Lowry, so this is the next-best thing. Throw in an additional second-rounder in 2015 who has a chance to be relevant (least favorable of Denver, Minnesota and New York), and some cash to cover for the payroll increase for 2014, and Toronto has a significant haul for Lowry's expiring deal. Standing in the way of this deal are the obvious issues with Lin's contract, coupled with Toronto's outsized desires for Lowry's deal. A possible deal sweetener might be the addition of Donatas Motiejunas, a stretch big who would fit well alongside fellow Lithuanian Valanciunas.
That would be nice for us, but Asik's value is really low right now, and no one wants to pay him 15M either.
I understand that for sure. But Ariza doesn't carry much value either except as an expiring. Wizards are trying to be competitive so wall doesn't bolt. Trading for asik is a good risk for them. Ariza is likely to walk and gortat as well. You get a return for a not returning player and insurance(and a better center) for an expiring player you just traded for. Seraphin and brewer are just swaps because of position depth. And really the 2nd rd pick isn't a big deal i would imagine. At this point i would trade asik for Ariza straight up. As a side bonus, i got an Ariza Jersey i would be able to re wear again lol.
KORVER is way to good to not be a starter in this league and not be finishing games, unless millsap sits which is the same case. I would love KORVER but if we did this trade it would mean we are all in on this team, which would result in cp25 coming a RFA this summer and getting paid by les and daryl along with maybe trying to get Lowry to sign with the MLE, but when he says no and some crappy team like the lakers offer him 10mill he will walk once again
I've thought something centered around Lin, Asik, Jones for Millsap and Korver would work. Granted, I think the Rockets may need a third team to be involved to take one of either Lin or Asik.
