Move 1: Houston trades: Lowry, Scola, Martin, Patterson, Budinger Houston gets: Iguodala, Amare, POR 1st PHI trades: Iguodala PHI gets: Martin, Budinger - Lets Turner take over Iggy's role, Martin gives them a low-usage scorer. NY trades: Amare NY gets: Scola, W.Matthews, Patterson - Gets depth up-front with one quality vet PF and one quality young PG. Matthews is a great complementary piece. POR trades: Matthews, POR 1st POR gets: Lowry - With 2 picks, one is expendable. Lowry solves all PG problems. Move 2:With 2 picks, draft PG Kendall Marshall (Portland pick) and C Meyers Leonard (NY Pick) Move 3: Re-sign Dragic (w/promise of starting job with Lowry gone) and sign OJ Mayo at about $8 mil a year. Camby/Dalembert/Leonard Stoudemire/Motiejunas/Morris Iguodala/Parsons Mayo/Lee Dragic/Marshall
trade 1.Patterson + Budinger + Mavs pick to OKC for Ibaka 2.Dalembert & Scola for future 1st rd pick 3.Martin for 2012 mid 1st-rd pick draft Leonard & Ross sign Camby, Dragic & Lee c- Camby / Leonard pf- Ibaka / Motiejunas sf- Parsons / Morris sg- Lee / Ross pg- Dragic / Lowry :grin:
-Lowry for Portland’s pick from NJ -Martin for M. Webster and B. Miller’s unguaranteed deals and Utah pick -Scola & Budinger for a future lottery protected Suns pick (Nash will stay if they upgrade the team) -Let Dragic walk -Re-sign Lee -Let Camby walk and finish his career with a contender -Pick up Dalembert's option so we’ll have a center (though it’s actually a crappy one who’ll help us tank) -Try and buy a potentially high lotto pick by taking on toxic contracts with our cap space -Develop our new picks, D-Mo, Patterson, Morris, Parsons by giving them big roles and lots of minutes Tank and await for ping pong balls
1. Trade Lowry for NJ pick from Portland. 2. Amnesty Kevin Martin. He should have gone the surgery route anyway. 3. Re-sign Dragic. 4. Re-sign Lee. 5. Decide what you're gonna do with the center spot. If you re-sign Camby, don't overpay (by too much). Dalembert? The coach won't play him, so decide if $7,000,000 is ok to keep him or $1,500,000 is better to flush him. 6. Sign Llull if the deal is good enough to offset his buyout. 7. Try that annual swing-for-the-fences trade using any combo of Luis, PPat, Morris, draft picks, whatever. 8. Pray?
MAYBE we can help the Hornets and ourself Okafor, Henry and a 2nd round pick ...for... Martin and Dalembert NO -Cleans up their pay-role for the new owner -Delembert is serviceable (and cheap) while they groom Andre Drummond -They would have Martin when/if Gordon walks ~ if Gordon stays then they could flip Martin and his expiring contract at the trade deadline. ROX - With Motiejunas coming over we need veteran bigs to help with his transition. Look at the difference Camby has made. (Dalembert is not the answer but is serviceable to another team) - Henry is a perfect back-up to a resigned C. Lee or Llull - DM the GM + 2nd round picks = GOLD Not a big trade but one that will help long term. IMO
bring over Motiejunas, Lull walk Lee, Dragic, Camby trade Lowry, Scola, Budinger, Patterson 1.Lowry, Mavs pick to Sac for Hayes, Thomas, top 5 pick 2.Scola, Budinger, Patterson, NYK pick to move up in the draft draft Drummond, Lamb c- Drummond / Dalembert (Exp.Contract) pf- Motiejunas / Hayes sf- Parsons / Morris sg- Lamb / Martin (Exp.Contract) pg- Lull / Thomas :grin:
Silly assumptions. 1) Leonard won't be available by the mid first round for the Rockets to draft him. 2) Scola, Patterson and Dalembert are all three considered to be baggage by Rocket fans own admission yet somehow the Heat will be drooling all over themselves to trade away Chris Bosh for these journeymen? 3) Even if OKC wanted to move Harden due to max salary cap problems, why would they move him to Houston for this weak deal? They could move him to at least a half a dozen other teams for higher picks and / or better players than Courtney Lee. Harden is going to be sixth man of the year. They aren't going to just hand him over to the Rockets.
Would you guys trade Lowry for Drummond if the opportunity was given? It's a huge risk, but it could pay huge dividens. At best, we have a center for the future. Worst, hopefully serviceable and we would still have Gogi. Then to get O.J mayo around the MLE and let Lee walk (since S&T aren't possible now). It's time for bigger calculated moves to get us out of NBA purgatory.
Dude I would that in a freaking heartbeat!! I know its a HUGE gamble, but a gamble that needs to be made!!
of course. I understand small sample sizes, BUT nonetheless believe Dragic is as good as Lowry as a starting PG. You can't get anything for Dragic since he's unrestricted. You can for Lowry. You would like to know that Llull will come over, but even without, you can pick up a backup PG elsewhere. I'm not super super high on Drummond relative to other prospects, but would certainly take the risk. But Portland seems to be the most likely lotto team in need of a point, and they might just prefer to try and make a run at Dragic as a FA then to trade away their draft choice. I guess the Hornets and Jazz might also be interested in that type of move. Lowry would make the Jazz instantly much better, imo, so that could be something to explore. I think you can still do S&T's, but there is no incentive for the player to do so. I think OJ will get more than the MLE, even though he probably shouldn't. He has very solid games to be sure, but is wildly inconsistent and a very inefficient scorer. Would rather just keep Lee at a cheaper price. He's not Mayo, but he is cheaper.
I already explained it in the other thread, Mayo is being as poorly utilized as he could be in Memphis. He was consistent and efficient as a starter in his first two years. Sure, the situation he's in cant' be the sole reason his numbers have suffered (the player has to shoulder some blame as well), but all I'm saying is that his #s are not indicative of the caliber of player he is. He's not the "superstar" of the future, but he has talent to take a chance on. He has the confidence, leadership and skills to be a key piece in our future, he just needs the opportunity.
No to Lowry for Drummond. And no to Mayo in free agency unless he came dirt cheap for half MLE. Drummond is too high-risk of bust and Mayo is a gunner that is not efficient. Neither one makes a difference next season and it's doubtful whether either one would ever make a difference. I would trade Lowry for.....Thomas Robinson, Jared Sullinger, Anthony Davis (impossible), or as part of a package for Dwight and possibly to the Hornets to get them not to match an offer sheet to Eric Gordon.
HOU: Kevin Martin, Patrick Patterson and Samuel Dalembert FOR UTAH: Al Jefferson and 1st Rounder. This way Houston can pick up Sullinger in the draft. You could also draft another Center (Fab Melo) and then sign somebody like Jamal Crawford in the free agency period. You could also trade the 2nd first rounder for somebody like Kosta Koufus.
Al Jefferson isn't the way to go IMO. Derrick Favors on the other hand... Of course Favors will probably be much harder to get, but I don't see Al Jefferson helping this team much now, nor in the future. He just doesn't fit with any of the bigs that we have.
I see where your coming from, but I think he would take the rebounding load. He has an offensive game that is somewhat consistent. Dally doesn't have a consistent offensive game, from what I've seen. I personally think he and Scola would do great together. Out of curiosity, what player do you think the Rockets should pursue?
^ Like I said, I'd try to see if there was any way the Jazz would move Derrick Favors. I'm on board for a Dwight Howard rental. I'd go hard after Marc Gasol via trade. Valanciunas, Cousins. All of them are longshots obviously, but a center that you can build around is what I feel like is what the Rockets need the most. A non center that I'm intrigued with in what limited action I've seen is Eric Bledsoe. If the Clippers bring back Billups and Mo Williams they might be open to trading Bledsoe for an upgrade at the wing or the big spots (Bledsoe for Budinger anyone? ).
What about say Lowry for Erik Kanter? (sp?) The Jazz have a few extra bigs and if we can resign Goran, we've got 2 very good PG's. That seems to be the Jazz biggest weakness. Although I don't want to help them out, it would be nice to get a big with potential for a change. Would we require their first as well?
Kevin Martin (straight up) for Portland Trailblazers 2012 pick. Which should land around 9-13. They could keep Martin or use him as trade bait to swing another deal, and trade Martin with their Nets pick up, even higher into the draft and shoot for Drummond. Portland does not need any forwards. Would they move Batum to shooting guard or send him packing and let Barnes take over at small forward. We could net Portland's higher pick, but I think that cost us Martin with another piece, like Lowry or Dragic. Maybe more. Portland may have the biggest flexibility of any competitive NBA team for next season.
Decent idea, but won't work financially. Portland can't take back Martin's salary on draft night. Haven't seen either guy enough to have a well formed opinion on them, but if we were to trade Lowry for either guy then what? One of the two plus Scola, Patterson and Motiejunas. Talk about a log jam. I understand that you draft BPA, but you'd have to be crazy high on either guy to trade Lowry for them.
