I am thinking about the following deal to help get Melo to Chicago. Salary works. Chicago out: Deng, Noah, 1st round pick Chicago In: Melo Denver Out: Melo, Nene Denver In: Noah, Hill, Battier, CHI 1st rounder, Houston 1st rounder (either 2011 or 2012, better pick between NYK and HOU), Jeffries, A. Johnson and M. Harris (non-guaranteed minimun contracts) Houton out: Hill, 1st round pick (either 2011 or 2012, better pick between NYK and HOU), Battier, Jeffries, A. Johnson and M. Harris Houston in: Nene, Deng Now, there can be tweaks such as (a) have Houston eat Balkman's or Andersen's salary, (b) send Budinger or Patterson to instead of or in addition to Hill Denver, etc, (c) have more picks included or less pick included from either CHI or HOU. Denver gets its marquee young player (Noah), additional young talent (Hill), expiring contracts (and Battier can probably be swapped midseason for some younger talent from a contending team), and 2 1st round picks. Chicago gets Melo. Rockets get the ultra-efficient Nene, who be a beast next to Yao, Scola or Miller and inject some atheleticism lacking in that group. They have to absorb Deng's contract, which is large and long (and which Denver, presumaly does not want at this point, thus making a 3 way necessary), but the guy is only 25, a good player on both end of the floor (when healthy) and can take Battier's place as the resident highly professional Duke SF. The questions are: 1. Does Chicago really give up Noah for Melo? 2. Is Denver willing to give up Nene as well to get more salary savings and an extra pick? 3. Is Houston willing to give up what would essentially be the package it would offer in pursuit of a "superstar player" in exchange for 2 very good but not quite super players who make, combined, superstar money?
Chicago likely wouldn't do that unless they get Nene somehow in the deal. They're a contending team now but I don't think it will stay that way unless they have a decent center. This would be a steal for Denver in my opinion. 2 first rounders, and 2 decent powerforwards/centers. Not a great deal for Houston considering us taking Nene would mean he'd be competing with Scola for the starting 4 spot. I wouldn't like that happening since Scola has pretty much proven he deserves to be a starter.
Nene is a center I wouldnt do this deal if we have to include picks or additional prospects like Pat or Bud. Its already bad taking on Dengs contract.
I'd rather keep Bud, don't want to have only Deng as the real SF. Be happy to trade Pat right now, though. Rockets have enough up front if the trade goes through with Yao, Miller, Nene, Scola and Chuck. Sure there doesn't look like enough minutes to go around, but so what? You either play the best guys out there or you run it Euro-style with even your best players playing roughly 1/2 of the game and keep everyone fresh (and reduce wear and tear in a long season). Also lets you play all kinds of matchups.
Would anyone consider this scenario? This deal facilitates us receiving a scoring SF but not Carmelo. Rox trade to Denver Jared Jefferies Jordan Hill 2012 1st rd (either one) Knicks trade to Denver Curry Chandler Randolph 2014 1st rd Knicks trade to Rox Gallinari Bill Walker Denver trades to NY Carmelo JR Smith This works in Real GM. Convulted but I think everyone gets what they want.
yes I would NY will kinda be depleted but then again Carmelo would end up where he wants to go so he'd be happy denver I dont know about
thats not a fair question regarding the scenario your question, I'd take Nene easily. The real scenario, I dont want Deng contracts with us giving up our assets. including picks and prospects
I still stick to my opinion. your original trade is doable, costly, but doable. but when you said maybe add some picks or prospects, then no. that pushed the limit.
I believe NY would have to give up those same players anyway to make the deal work, but it appears that Denver values draft picks as much as players and the Knicks can't give them one until 2014. That 2012 pick is the key in this scenario IMHO.
Morey's not touching that Deng contract with a ten-foot pole, unless it is clear that Yao's career is over, and this is the ONLY way to get Nene. Given what we know about Daryl Morey, I think he'd much rather go to war with Shane Battier as the starting SF, a nice young backup in Chase Budinger (who is on a cheap, long-term contract) and the financial flexibility to either sign Aaron Brooks to a big-money contract or go after an outside free agent next summer. Having Deng likely strips the team of that financial flexibility without totally breaking the bank. For Carmelo Anthony? Yeah, you do that. For Luol Deng/Nene? Eh, not so much.
I'd still like to cash in Aaron Brooks and Improve the SF spot, I think this trade can meet both needs... Rockets receive: SF Andre Iguodala, PG Lou Williams, PF/C Jason Thompson Kings Receive: PG Aaron Brooks, C Jason Smith Philly Receives: SF Shane Battier, PF Jared Jeffries, PF Jordan Hill, 2011 NY pick Houston Rockets 10/11 Lowry | Williams Martin | Lee Iggy | Budinger Scola | Pat | JT Yao | JT | Miller
Jason Smith was traded to the Hornets today. I would be interested in Jason Thompson, though. I think he's a better version of Jordan Hill.
I'm so tired of this Melo-drama . Do you all know what this feels like? Just like the Chris Bosh ride all over again . Let's take what we can get and go! Fact #1: Melo really wants to go to NY. Fact #2: NY really needs a pick and we have it. So...... Denver gets: Curry, Chandler, Douglas and they're NY 2012 pick New York gets: Melo, J. Taylor, Johnson and $5.3 mil. TE(Gallinari + Randolph) Houston gets: Gallinari and Randolph Why Houston does it? Obvious. Why does Denver do it? They get they're huge expiring, 2 young talents and they're 1st rd. pick. Why NY does it? Well, a $5.3 mil. TE for one and also they are desperate for Melo. Everyone wins in this scenario. No one is being left high and dry. Truth be told, if there is anyway that Houston is involved, we will always come out on top in this situation. Whether we get Melo or Randolph/Gallinari, we will come out as the winners in the deal. As long as we are involved. Thats why i say jump in now and get what you can before Denver switches up on everybody .
Jared Jeffries signs a contract extension and we do a straight up trade for Anthony. I think it is plausible...
in light of the proposed melo to nj in a 4way trade, what are some of the other teams' needs that we can take advantage of and end up getting a good player or two? Billups + Birdman for Brooks + Jeffries + Hill + ArizaTE Billups/Lowry Martin/Lee Battier/Chase Scola/Hayes/Pat Yao/Miller/Birdman
In the event that Houston and Utah agree to a sign and trade deal with Fesenko. Rockets trade: 2011 Rockets second rounder (rights to swap with Clippers second) Carl Landry trade exception ($1.6 million) Jazz trade: Fesenko
