Denver only are only saving the $1.6/7 million from Balkman's contract. I'd guess that dumping salary will be a priority if Denver trades Melo.
My deal is keeping it simple, already posted it in another thread, but would like to see what some people think. Denver Gets: Battier, Jeffries, Budinger, Patterson, Knicks Picks (2011, 2012) Houston Gets: Anthony Lineup: Brooks/Lowry Martin/Lee Anthony/Lee Scola/Hill Yao/Miller Some people will say we have to give up Brooks or Martin but I don't think so, lots of trades recently have been kind of one-sided, and if the Nuggets are dealing Anthony, they are rebuilding, which means they will want Budinger/Patterson + Draft Picks. Plus they get Veteran Leadership with Battier. Don't know what they'll do with Jeffries lol.
3-team trade. DEN: George + Patterson + Hill + Battier + Harris + Johnson + NY 2011 pick (HOU pick & opt to swap) + NY 2012 pick IND: Melo + Hayes + Taylor HOU: Granger + Foster + rights to Magnum Rolle Billups, Lawson, Carter Afflalo, Smith, George Harrington, Battier, Balkman Martin, Patterson, Williams Nene, Hill, Andersen Collison, Price, Ford Rush, D.Jones, Taylor, Stephenson (voided?) Melo, Dunleavy, Posey Hayes, Hansbrough, McRoberts Hibbert, S.Jones Brooks, Lowry Martin, Lee Granger, Budinger, Jeffries Scola, Foster, Rolle Miller, Yao
I'd would try to add another 1st rd pick, and Jermaine Taylor to the package in order to try and keep Chase Budinger.. given the lack of depth we would have at that position... Hopefully it could look something like this... Denver Receives: Battier/Jeffries(expiring) Harris/Johnson(non-guaranteed) Patrick Patterson Jermaine Taylor Knicks pick(2011,2012) Houston pick(2012-unprotected) Houston Receives: Carmelo Anthony
If he extends first Im loving it but any deal where he comes here with us hoping he resigns then no. (extend and trade!)
I would take out Patterson and replace him with Hill. Then, if possible , i would try to keep the 2012 pick.
It would seem like a true Morey-type move to sweep up Billups/Andersen for Brooks + Jeffries + fillers + TE (separate deal for Birdman) instead of going for Melo. Billups/Lowry Martin/Lee Battier/Chase Scola/Andersen Yao/Miller Best half court (playoff built) team in the league + very good depth (regular season). If the asking price for Melo is too high or if Melo won't sign an extension with the Rox, I would almost prefer the trade above.
If Melo agrees to an "extend-and-trade" deal, I wonder if the following trade would work for all parties: Houston gets: Carmelo Anthony Denver gets: Aaron Brooks Jordan Hill Jermaine Taylor Alexander Johnson (non-guaranteed) Mike Harris (non-guaranteed) 2011 HOU first round pick (higher of Rockets' or Knicks' pick) 2012 HOU first round pick (higher of Rockets' or Knicks' pick) Sacramento* gets: Jared Jeffries 2011 DEN first round pick (heavily protected with gradual burn-off) Cash (*Trade would also work with Minnesota instead of Sacramento.) Why Houston does this deal: Easy. Carmelo Freakin' Anthony. While I personally do not like the guy, he is clearly one of the top 5 scorers in the game and would instantly be the Rockets' best player. This trade allows the Rockets to form their own "Big Three" of Melo, Yao and Kevin Martin. It will probably cost Les more money than if Martin or Battier were included, but it will preserve the Rockets' needs for another efficient wing scorer and quality defense at the wing position, respectively. While some may think that this trade involves the Rockets giving up too much, put this into perspective: Next year, the Rockets' fifth big man would be Patrick Patterson and their fifth wing player would be Chase Budinger. Sounds pretty deep to me. The Rockets will still have a decent second rounder in 2011 and likely their own first rounder in 2012, together with the rights to Sergio Llull, so the cupboard would certainly not be bare after this trade. Hell, if Morey's not going to blow his wad to get a guy like Melo, then what is all the asset accumulation for, anyway? Why Denver does this deal: Assuming that Melo is actually prepared to bolt for New York next summer, even if it means that he'd leave millions on the table, Denver may finally decide to move him. This trade accomplishes two goals for the Nuggets: (1) it provides them with quality young talent (Brooks, the picks, Hill and to a lesser extent Taylor) and (2) saves the team--which has been a tax payer the past couple of seasons--a TON of money. Harris and Johnson would be waived at no cost to Denver. By my calculations, this trade could save Denver over $23 million next year alone. It would take a team hopelessly stuck in luxury tax hell and put them just above the tax threshold, with a chance to sneak under it this season. It is the inordinate amount of savings provided by Sacramento's involvement that would make Denver willing to part with a (heavily-protected) first round pick. The protection on the pick could slowly burn off, with the likely result being that the pick finally gets conveyed in 2013 or 2014 as a mid-first rounder. Why Sacramento does this deal: The Kings are so far below the cap that they actually need to sign one more player in order to reach the league's MINIMUM salary requirement. A team in Sacramento's position is left to auction off its cap room to the highest bidder. That is why it would likely take a bunch of cash to get them to use that cap space on Jeffries. My guess would be that most/all of the cash would come from Houston; but Denver would possibly be highly motivated financially to do this deal, meaning that additional funds could come from Denver, along with the pick. Thoughts? (Nuggets4, I'd love your take on this proposal, taking into account your knowledge of the Nuggets' financial situation.)
Well constructed but doesn't take into consideration team needs. Rockets are left with a log jam at the SF spot and the Nuggets are left with a log jam at the PG spot. DD
True, but if Melo is traded, the Nuggets will be shopping Billups (whose contract is only partially guaranteed for 2011-12). I think they'd be happy with Brooks and can play him with Billups in the same lineup for stretches. I think the Brooks/Lawson tandem would be pretty sweet in Denver and would likely be set by February. As for the Rockets' SF depth, I think it is a glut worth having. I personally think that Battier's presence (both on the defensive end and in the locker room) would be greatly needed next season. If he plays well, great. If not, his contract ends after next season. Keeping Budinger as depth at both wing positions (he and Lee would battle for minutes) could be key, especially if/when Martin goes down for an 8-10 game stretch. Plus, if Lee can play some minutes at PG (I'm not holding my breath), that could open up some minutes for Bud. Lowry/??? Martin/Lee Melo/Battier/Budinger Scola/Hayes/Patterson Yao/Miller That's a pretty damn good team.
If Denver does this trade then they are looking to rebuild. Rebuilding teams have no "team needs". Rebuilding teams especially don't cater to the individual needs of 34 year old players on the last years of their contract. If the Rockets do this trade they are STACKED. Would they have a log jam at SF? Sure. But it would not be the same situation with Ariza, where we were unbalanced with 1 legit SG and 3 legit SF. In this case we would still have 2 legit SG and now 3 SF. We would just be incredibly deep, AND balanced. Besides, Battier is getting up there in age, Budinger can just wait 1 more year for a more prominent role. Or we can simply include Budinger in the trade to begin with, further sweetening the pot for Denver. And unclogging our log jam at SF if that's your cup of tea.
Remember that even on a best case scenario, Yao will only be coming back slowly next year. A recovery year. Also, the entire lineup would be completely new, and probably needs all year to gel. But imagine 2011/12, with both Budinger and Patterson hopefully developed and ready for the regular rotation. Also with Llull coming over to hopefully solidify the backup PG. That would be right up there with the top teams like I have mentioned in several posts. OR we could blow it up all over again and go for a trio of Melo/Yao/CP3. Lots of options open up with a legit superstar like Carmelo(whether legitimate or just in name, it doesn't matter).
After researching a lot about Melo these last few days and reading up on him....I hope he goes elsewhere. Do not want. DD
Are teams allowed to just get something without giving anything up, like Sacramento is doing in this deal?
If Denver wants to kind of give Billups/Nene one more shot before blowing things up while trading Melo, I am thinking the folllowing might make sense: HOU Out: Battier + Brooks (to Charlotte); Jeffries+Jordan Hill (or Patterson)+2011 1st round pick + 2012 first round pick (to Denver) HOU In: Carmelo Anthony Charlotte Out: Gerald Wallace (to Denver) Charlotte In: Battier + Brooks Denver Out: Carmelo Anthony Denver In: Gerald Wallace, Jeffries, Hill (or Patterson) +2011 1st round pick + 2012 1st round pick (Higher of Houstons or Knicks). Why Houston does it: Carmelo Anthony. Why Charlotte does it: They need a PG pretty badly. Battier is no Wallace but he's a good fit for Larry Brown, can defend and space the floor. Why Denver does it: Wallace is no Melo, but he's pretty good and can live off feeds and garbage baskets with Chauncey still around. You arguably remain almost as good, and you add a few young pieces for your trouble.
Seems that Carmelo Antony's True fieldgoal percentage is about 54% which isn't bad. It's actually better than guys like Aaron Brooks. No, it's not as high as K-mart but then again, neither was Jordan nor Kobe. Point is that efficiency is important but not the only thing. And Anthony is just fine as an efficient offensive player. If he took less 3's I think he'd move up too. Not sure why people say he's not efficient.
Mostly because he isn't very efficient for a "superstar". No doubt he is top ten player and would be the envy of almost any team but he isn't exactly a "Morey type of player".
