Manu has only averaged 30 or more mins for a season once in his NBA career. He averages 27 mins. I think Manu would be happy as long as he was played in the crunch time minutes. He's a guy who's aware of his age, injury history, and wants to represent Argentina for a while longer. I think it's for those reasons why he states that he prefers playing off the bench.
Manu Ginobili is quite efficient still. The only reason why his numbers went down at the beginning of the season was because of the addition of Jefferson and him not getting enough playing time. Now, with Jefferson sucking major balls, Manu has had his minutes increased, and is producing at a great level. Plus, Manu has already notioned to the fact that the Spurs are not keen on re-signing him because of the whole International Ball controversey. If the whole Chris Bosh or Amare sweepstakes falls short or they sign somewhere else, we should, assuming Scola and Lowry are re-signed, go after Manu and Camby. If we can't flat out sign him as a free agent for the MLE, we can work a sign and trade. Something along the lines of Jeffries-Battier-picks for Manu. Manu would accept the MLE. Somthing along the lines of $17.55 mill for 3 years or $11.7 mill for 2 years? Then go after Camby for the LLE. Maybe $ 3.2 mill for 2 years? BimaThug, can this be reasonable and possible? Basically, what I'm trying to say is, this current lineup can contend for the title, if the Bosh-Amare sweepstakes fails: Brooks/Lowry Martin/Manu Ariza/Budinger Scola/Hill Yao/Camby
And for people who said that Manu is old and injury prone, he has only missed 4 games this whole season! He's played 57 games this season. Stats wise, he is averaging 15 ppg, 5 appg, and 37% three point shooting this season on 27.8 mpg. Since Parker has been out and Jefferson's minutes have been reduced, he is averaging 22 ppg, 6 apg, and 46% three point shooting at 31.6 mpg. Link: http://espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=272 Basically, what I'm saying is, DUDE CAN STILL PRODUCE AT A HIGH LEVEL!
That's not going to happen. The spurs and several other teams (e.g., the bulls) can offer him more than MLE. Even for MLE, Cuban can offer him 5 years.
Yeah, but none of those teams have the Scola factor. Im Pakistani, so if I was in the NBA for a long time and accomplised so much like winning rings and 6th man of the year awards, and a fellow Pakistani of mine that played with me internationally, who is fairly new to the NBA, I would most certainly want to play on the same team as him and help him win a championship. Assuming we re-sign Scola though, and Morey has made it known he will in fact re-sign him.
Yeah, but none of those teams have the Scola factor. Im Pakistani, so if I was in the NBA for a long time and accomplised so much like winning rings and 6th man of the year awards, and a fellow Pakistani of mine that played with me internationally, who is fairly new to the NBA, I would most certainly want to play on the same team as him and help him win a championship. Assuming we re-sign Scola though, and Morey has made it known he will in fact re-sign him. For Manu. I think money isn't a factor for him if it means to have a chance to win a ring, especially sharing it with your fellow Argentianian.
I don't want to crush anyone dreams, but if you want Manu here you would need to either ship Ariza or Martin, and let Manu play all his 27 minutes at the SG. Moving any of those to the SF. Not only that, you would need to move either Martin and Ariza to a team willing to give back a contract exception. And convince the one that is left here that in crunch time the ball will always go to Manu first. That's indeed a very difficult task. We killed our champioship hopes the day we stuck ourselves with Martin, no one will want him, and he will b**** around if Manu is the man in crunch time. Wont accept reduced minutes or protagonism.
We also have a better rostor moving foward than teams like the Bulls and Mavs. Cuban aint gonna hold Morey's jockstrap when negotiations come up.
I rather ship Battier than Ariza, but we have to keep one of them. Also, adding Manu shouldn't effect Martin or his playing time. We already have Martin locked for the next 3 seasons.
Scola-factor is overrated. Nobody in NBA would make a business decision on the basis of it. A player like Manu played oversea at very young age. I think he is used to this way.
I have been thinking about this for a while as well and I think this would make Battier expendable... Maybe trade Battier to the Bulls for Hinrich. If the bulls pick up a someone like Wade, then Battier could be pretty attractive to them and it will give Shane a chance at a ring. Also could trade another asset(Jeffries or Andersen) for Miller in return if we can't land Camby. Lowry/Hinrich Martin/Brooks/Budinger Ariza/Manu/Budinger Scola/Hill Yao/Miller or Camby You may say that this would leave Budinger with not enough minutes, but with Martin & Manu in the lineup, either one could go out with an injury and Budinger would be right there ready to play. Also, whose to say that Budinger will be post-season ready, assuming next year will be his first chance to get a shot in the playoffs. It also allows Hinrich and Lowry to guard the 2 spot whenever Brooks is on the court. This lineup can be tweaked a number of different ways as well, since Hinrich is cabable of playing SG on offense. For those of you who hate the idea of Brooks as a 6th man, the lineup can be changed by moving Hinrich to the 2-spot and Lowry to the bench. I just love the idea of Scola and Manu on the same team... Seems like a very productive duo every night.
I like the way you think my man! Manu coming to Houston is not outta the question like most people say it is. We have the most attractive offer for him both business wise and success wise.
Alternatives: Iggy... again? We all know that the Iguodala trade never materialized for anybody at the deadline. Now that we have picks, we have more to offer a Philly team which desperately needs to head into rebuilding mode. How about if we offered something like this: Battier (expiring) Andersen (team option after next season) Budinger Knicks' 2011 first rounder Iggy plays excellent defense, draws fouls, and scores; perhaps most importantly, he's a huge threat attacking the rim and is great at dishing to the perimeter, where Brooks and Martin will wait. Our roster looks like this, then: Brooks/Lowry Martin/Ariza Iguodala/Ariza Scola/Hill Yao/Hayes/2010 first rounder No superstars except Yao, but very solid at every position... perfect for Adelman's offense, which runs best with lots of ball movement, not with just one "go-to guy". And tons of fouls drawn by Martin/Iggy/Lowry to get us into the bonus quickly and do lots of damage at the free throw line. Just a random thought that occurred to me... don't know that I'd do that trade, or do it with those players (I like all of them), but the interplay of Iggy's attacking with Martin's Brooks' shooting is an idea that fascinates me, and we wouldn't need to have an offensive black hole on the floor in Battier/Ariza to have good wing defense.
