Why would the bulls give up deng when they can offer wade a max next year and keep deng? I'm just saying
b/c no one wants hinrich by himself? and deng is only one attractive after derrick rose? and tmac is another playmaker you can add to derrick rose, who seems to have a 2nd year slump. and word is wade is not going anywhere.
I can kind of see it happening. NYC wants to dump salary with either Curry or Jefferies. They have enough expiring contracts of their own to make the salaries work, and both Curry and Jefferies only got one more year left, so that the amount of contract the Rockets have to eat isn't too bad. The only question is what the Rockets get for their trouble? I am thinking they might have interest in Gallinari, or maybe Chandler, or maybe a pick (a first rounder would have been a 2012 first rounder since their 2010 is gone). Lee is a fine player but I don't see how he's better than Scola or Landry. The only reasonable thing I can think of is maybe involvng a third team.
I'll play this game with you, but why get rid of deng just to get rid of hinrich? Hinrich is a good enough player solo that a team without a pg could get him for the 25% allotment. Even if they don't get wade, amare or boozer would do wonders for that team. I mean, hinrich is better than beno and does some of the same things, the kings might want to move martin who seems to be a guy that is effecient, but doesn't have it. The two teams have done business before and the bulls can offer hinrich and thomas for martin and beno. Then in the summer, they could offer amare max or boozer 10m or so to go along with rose,salmons,deng,martin,noah and the rest of the crew. That sounds like a better deal than the one dealing hinrich away to get deng doesn't it?
Houston Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: +36.0 ppg, +14.3 rpg, and +3.2 apg. Incoming Players Cuttino Mobley 6-4 SG from Rhode Island No games yet played in 2009-2010 Al Harrington 6-9 PF / SF from St. Patrick's (HS) 20.1 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.6 apg in 30.6 minutes Chris Kaman 7-0 C from Central Michigan 18.9 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 36.8 minutes Outgoing Players Jermaine Taylor 6-4 SG from Central Florida 2.2 ppg, 0.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 3.8 minutes Joey Dorsey 6-9 PF from Memphis No games yet played in 2009-2010 Brian Cook 6-9 PF from Illinois 0.8 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.7 minutes Tracy McGrady 6-8 SG / SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS) No games yet played in 2009-2010 New York Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -31.8 ppg, -10.1 rpg, and -4.5 apg. Incoming Players Jermaine Taylor 6-4 SG from Central Florida 2.2 ppg, 0.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 3.8 minutes Brian Cook 6-9 PF from Illinois 0.8 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.7 minutes Tracy McGrady 6-8 SG / SF from Mount Zion Christian Academy (HS) No games yet played in 2009-2010 Speedy Claxton 5-11 PG from Hofstra No games yet played in 2009-2010 Outgoing Players Nate Robinson 5-9 PG from Washington 9.4 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.1 apg in 21.0 minutes Cuttino Mobley 6-4 SG from Rhode Island No games yet played in 2009-2010 Al Harrington 6-9 PF / SF from St. Patrick's (HS) 20.1 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.6 apg in 30.6 minutes Eddy Curry 6-11 C from Thornwood (HS) 5.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.0 apg in 11.5 minutes L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -13.6 ppg, -6.0 rpg, and -1.8 apg. Incoming Players Joey Dorsey 6-9 PF from Memphis No games yet played in 2009-2010 Eddy Curry 6-11 C from Thornwood (HS) 5.3 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.0 apg in 11.5 minutes Outgoing Players Chris Kaman 7-0 C from Central Michigan 18.9 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 36.8 minutes Golden State Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: +9.4 ppg, +1.8 rpg, and +3.1 apg. Incoming Players Nate Robinson 5-9 PG from Washington 9.4 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.1 apg in 21.0 minutes Outgoing Players Speedy Claxton 5-11 PG from Hofstra No games yet played in 2009-2010 Hou - Gets under the LT, gets a true 7' C that should allow Yao time to heal and a PF that can slide to C for short ball spells on an expiring contract - all for - well you see the list NY - Gets the cap space they need to sign 2 big FAs and gets back a name that might bring some buzz to the Garden until those 2 arrive - all for the price of players that they probably won't resign or would like to get rid of. But I think they also will need to throw a 2012 pick LACs way. LAC - Trades a 2 year contract for a 1 and gets a #1 pick from NY and a 2nd round from GS. Still not sure that is enough though... GS - They can't play Monta for 48 minutes every game. Speedy is done and Nate would make a good backup for them. All for the cost of a 2nd round pick. ok...I'll admit I'm board...
I didn't look on this, cause it's unreal, but please, stop givin' up a trades with "stuff" that you doesn't know anything about. Knicks 1-st rounder is not an ownership of NY. It's Jazz pick for this season, and that's why Knicks are trying to win every game.
I know that it was a homer trade but... Rookie suggestion: Read the whole post before making comments. (The pick was the 2012) And as a extra suggestion...Work on your english.
Teams with payroll exceeding $80M: Boston, Cleveland, Knicks, Orlando Dallas, Lakers, Utah Other teams over LT: Miami*, Washington Denver, (Houston*), New Orleans*, Phoenix*, San Antonio *Teams that can get under LT with a minor move/s. Guesstimate of Cuttino Mobley's pro-rated contract at trade deadline (Feb 18): $9.5M / 170 (days of regular season) x 56 (remain days of reg season from trade deadline) - 80% insurance = $2.5M? OKC are $9.3 under the salary cap. If the Rockets deal McGrady to the Knicks primarily for Mobley's contract... Mobley + expiring filler → McGrady The LT paying teams who are looking shaky and need to dump massive salary if they want to get under: NY's 2010 1st rounder + Harpring + Korver + Fesenko → Mobley Mobley + 1st rounder + $3M → OKC under the cap + Ollie Ollie → Rockets TE (Utah get under the tax) Ginobili + Mahinmi (option declined, expiring deadweight) + rights to Splitter → Mobley + Chandler Mobley + 1st rounder + $3M → OKC under the cap + Ollie (San Antonio get under the tax) Butler → Mobley Mobley + 1st rounder + $3M → OKC under the cap + Ollie (Washington get under the tax)
Rockets are around $2.53M over the tax. Partly thanks to Toronto for picking up Pop's contract off waivers his salary no longer counts. At the trade deadline the remaining money owed on Cook's contract could be around $1.2M. Sending Cook + $3M to an under the cap team or one with an appropriate TE would allow the Rockets to get under the tax. The other team makes a cash profit.
Actually, according to shamsports, it looks like the Rockets are about $3.35M over the luxury tax threshhold right now. http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/rockets.jsp Still, I completely agree that, barring any other salary-reducing trades, trading Brian Cook plus cash (and maybe a pick will need to be thrown in as well) is the easiest way for the Rockets to get back below the tax threshhold. THIS is why Brian Cook was not waived in training camp (like many on this BBS wanted). Les may be able to save as much as $7-10M by dumping him at the trade deadline.
Trade opportunities could be opening up for the Rockets: http://www.courierpress.com/news/2009/dec/08/pacers-granger-out-least-4-weeks/ http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/12/8/1191608/rudy-fernandez-to-undergo Oden -out for season, knee Batum - March, shoulder surgery Outlaw - March, broken foot Mills - January or later, broken foot Fernandez - January or later, back surgery Pendergraph - end of December, hip surgery Page hasn't been updated. Pops's salary hasn't been deducted.
Unless Granger develops chronic planter fasciitis,I doubt if he will be put on the trade block. If he does,then he won't be of any use to us. We can't afford any more injuries. Sciatica is a bad sign,even if surgery cures Fernandez,the Blazers may look to trade him,but again we can't afford to have players who are coming off of surgery.
Granger won't be on the block. I'd speculate their two untouchable pieces are Granger and Hibbert. Everyone else might be on the block. Players that might interest the Rockets are Dunleavy, Foster, or Rush. IIRC, during the pre-draft hoopla. Rush was dubbed by some, as the Brandon Roy of his draft, ie most NBA ready. Clutch posted about a dead trade that involved Battier to get Rush. He's currently on the outer in Indiana.
