Anyone who wants to trade Tmac right now needs medical help at once. Look, we dogged Tmac for not wanting to be here last season, we dogged him for his half assed attempts at basketball, now the guy is giving it his all, showing he wants to be part of this team and now you still want to trade him? For what? Fact: We won't get a good return on his contract right now Myth: Tmac's selfish basketball style will not fit with this team. Tmac is not calling for a trade, he just wants to be part of this team. To trade him now would be asinine. I'm not saying completely feed his need to be a ball hog, but look at the Lakers game and look at last night. Both nights we needed a cold blooded shooter. AB dribbled away whatever chance we had to beat the lakers at Toyota Center and Trevor Ariza forced up a shot that isn't his thing. The only reason we even had a chance against Atlanta is because we got lucky. Tmac would have been a good fit in both those situations. Right now, the best course of action is to make sure he's fit and healthy, then play him until he runs out on us. Hopefully, that never happens.
If Memphis was smart they would do this to get out from under Randolph's mastodonic contract (raise your hand if you're not surprised to see the words "mastodonic" and "Randolph" in the same sentence again). But they aren't. So they would decline this deal as well.
Come on guys. What is with people not actually understanding this trade. The O.P.'s trade is already assuming that: 1) The T-mac drama is anchor on this team and is shifting their focus from the games. 2) That T-mac will not be adding much to any teams "in game this year," which makes him only an expiring contract. 3) You are not getting Randolf and Jaric to actually play, but to sit in suits and make the money work to get Gasol. Now if you disagree with those assumptions, then there you have it. But if you agree to those, the deal is not horrible. I would insist on the Rockets getting another 1st round draft pick, in which case it would work. Marc Gasol play reminds me of Landry in Jumbo size. With some tutelage under Hayes, he could very easily be the Center that would work in this new Adelman's offense. He would also be a great complement, if and when Yao comes back.
a better deal would mcgrady cook for rudy gay...and maybe gasol hehe..not gonna happen ...anyways teach rudy gay some defense and he is a great player.
Sacramento trades: Andres Nocioni Kenny Thomas To the Houston Rockets Houston trades: Tracy McGrady To the Philadelphia 76ers Philadelphia trades: Samuel Dalembert Jason Kapono To the Sacramento Kings Why would Sacramento do this: 1. They were rumored to have targeted Dalembert already and this gets that deal done. Dalembert gives them that center in the middle that they are lacking (Hawes is, lack for a better term, defensively inefficient). 2. They get out of Nocioni's contract and get $6.1 mil off the books with the Kapono contract. 3. Use Kapono as their hired gun until Garcia and Martin comes back Why would Houston do this: 1. Just to get rid of McGrady plain and simple. 2. Acquire a small forward that can actually score. 3. Still get some kind of cap relief with Kenny Thomas' $8 mil expiring Why would Philadelphia do this: 1. Cap room, cap room, cap room.
I hear Sacramento is looking to unload Martin as well, so I'm not sure this deal gets done without him.
let's talk sacrilege. Tmac and Landry to UTAH for Kirilenko, Boozer, and NY's 1st. Why we do it. Bye Bye TMac, which is necessary at this point, it seems. Losing Landry is tough, but Boozer is capable enough. Although Boozer will be moved at a later date for another piece. He isn't our type of player at all. Maybe SAC would take him and Cook for Martin (expiring, a big, etc). We also get Kirilenko, who I personally don't mind all that much. He's a flopper, and somewhat cheap, but that's more of a team mentality than his. He's russian, he doesn't like that crap. But it's expected. He also has a skill set that is perfect for us. He's long, defensive minded, can play the 4, slashes to the basket, looks like a team-oriented player on a team that's not, etc. He would be interesting for us. And the 1st round pick, we get because Utah needs serious cap relief. Utah likes this trade because it has a go-to player in TMac, a capable backup for Millsap in Landry, and he's cheap. But they really do it because they need the cap space. Or money to pay for the luxury tax. TMac's insurance will pick up a big chunk of his salary, so in essence, Utah get's 9 million to pay for their huge luxury tax bill. That's massive right now. Plus they get out of AK 47's salary for next year. That's why they throw in the pick. Now with the pick, maybe Minnesota would want it for the rights to Rubio. Actually, as I'm typing, it's not sounding like something that could happen. What do y'all think? TMac, Landry for Kirilenko, Rubio, and whoever Boozer brings?
That might be true but I rather get Nocioni and his shorter contract than bringing in another injury prone and massive-contract'd player
Difficult to put Thabeet in that trade, eh? Memphis has four centers: Gasol, Hunter, Haddadi and Thabeet, and Hollins only uses Gasol and Hunter. Thabeet plays less than 5 minutes per game. If other two can be dealt to the Rox, that'll be pretty nice, they could deter these high-flying punks like J-Smoove. Just saying. If we got a shot at Marc Gasol, it'd be even more sweeter. ...and there's the next thing, I don't like Zach and Jaric bringing their lame contracts to Houston, for the love of God.
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One poster actually got it. We may be able to use Zach off the bench. The key is getting Gasol and having 2 expiring contracts to trade next year. Zach and Jaric both expire in 2010. I like this trade to pick up a good big man for this year. Not to mention, McGrady would probably be bought out. I'd take him back after that for a playoff run.
Scenario 1: McGrady/Dorsey/1st round pick for West/Okafor/Posey -NO gets out of all thier long term commitments (saving nearly 80 million dollars). They can sit McGrady and collect the insurance or try to resign him and let him play with Chirs Paul. -Hou gets more pieces. None are spectacular but they are all serviceable and could be used in further trades come Feb. We finally get some size and shot blocking in Okafor and a decent versatile wing man in Posey. D.West is meh but his contract actually goes down so its a nice piece for further trading. Scenario 2: McGrady for Prince/Hamilton The ship has sailed on the old Detroit players. Ive seen this trade suggested by Piston fans so its a little more reasonable than the NO trade. Hamilton is a decent off the ball player and Prince is another versatile wing expiring next year. Both fit what we are doing here but in a few years Rip will be overpaid for what he is producing.
