phoenix is going to trade. Nash is older. Amare is upset. Artest is powerful. Mcgrady still has some talent in his tank. both expiring contract. both good assets for future trade. Is this thread "Random Rockets trade ideas -2008 09 "?
Yeah but take care to read the front page and you will see it saying be realistic. Would you do that trade if you was the coach or gm of the Suns? I sure as hell wouldnt and I know the Gm already said everyone is on the table except Nash so thats another mistake you made. 2 players who are playing well for two who arent? Again...
I gurantee if Amare is on the block then so is Nash. The difference? Nash is still contributing to the team, Amare is bringing the team down. So if someone is still producing then you can tell everyone under the sun you aren't going to trade that player but any player on any team is on the trade block if you think about it. Rockets say they won't trade Yao but if someone offered us Lebron James, 5 draft picks, and cash do you really think Morey's gonna say no? Don't believe everything you read, that whole team is on the trade block.
the suns are stupid. why would you build around nash, an aging player? or shaq? amare is clearly in his prime and would put up monster #s if you just run the offense around him and he can control an offense. no wonder steve kerr is looking dumb with all these moves he's been doing if i was him, i'd trade nash + jrich to this team for tracy + artest. that benefits both teams. (though money doesn't work)
problem is amare is acting like a baby, wanting himself to be the center of the offense. it's hard to understand the guy. before, he wanted a center beside him so he doesnt have to defend the other team's center or go at him. now that they have a center, he wants out. clearly, all his reasons are for him being THE MAN on the team. that's being selfish. and i dont want a player like that on the rockets. i said it before that suns should trade amare + jrich + fillers to nets for carter + yi + fillers. amare gets to have HIS team and play with a young upcoming point in harris plus a wing in jrich who would be willing to play 3rd fiddle. suns get a monster scorer in vince and a young PF with shooting range to give shaq space down low. now, if the rockets can get in the action there, i would love to have that trade. maybe landry ( + fillers if needed, head probably) to suns for yi. we get a Big PF who can shoot from long range. he'll be the guy we can use to defend against bigs who can shoot from the outside (okur, murphy, etc).
I think a few people would hate the idea of another Chinese player, soft at that on the team. Believe me I made the proposal and got flamed on it. Next, I believe Yi is actually one of the guys they want (NJN) for their rebuilding process.
Are you joking? Landry for Yi? haha. This team will be the softest in the West. The only guy I'd trade Landry for would be Tyrus Thomas or Harpring.
that's too bad. yi would be a good fit beside yao. i dont mind him being considered soft. it's not as if the team's playing hard nosed defense nowadays anyway.
A random trade. Artest+Landry+Head for Villaneuva, Sessions, Gadzuric We do it to get Vill who is a really good scorer, Sessions (maybe better than Rafer and Brooks). We get rid of Head, Artest, and have to give up Landry. They do it to get Landry and Artest (who probably walks at the end of the season). They get rid of Gadz's awful contract. http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4975388 Or, a pipe dream: http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4975388 Battier+Landry+Head for Maggette, Randolph, Bellinelli It's a steal for us. Maggette is very talented (though injury prone), Bellinelli is really hitting his stride, and Randolph is a big with some potential. GSW does it for the defense of Batty, the shooting of Batty and Head, and Landry as an up-and-coming PF who might be able to play uptempo. Maybe there isn't enough room for Belli to play with Ellis coming back. They supposedly want to get rid of Randolph and Maggette and here they get rid of both. I'd rather not lose Battier (I'd much prefer to give them Artest) but they'd probably want Batty more.
so? landry doesnt play good defense anyways. And he's not that good a low post scorer. no low post moves. If he can't dunk it, his shots would barely fall in. Thomas and Harpring is ok for me. But we're discussing the amare trade. Im just thinking of getting into the action and upgrade the PF position. everyone's been saying landry and scola are too much alike in the position. both are hustle players, cant play defense and are too small. yi is 7" and can shoot the outside shot and still has upside and is big enough to play center if needed. a yi and scola tandem would be better imo, than a scola and landry. do you prefer chuck,landry or scola playing backup center or a 7" guy?
Sorry, I didn't mean Harpring, I meant a Milsap type of guy. Good scorer under post and very aggressive.
Oh yeah and if you think Yi can take up backup position for center you're wrongly mistaken my friend. I hate his game.
we already have one. goes by the name "scola". well, he wont be playing backup all the time. like i said, scola and yi tandem > scola + landry. scola can still play the backup position for the 2nd unit if you want, but we get a taller PF in yi who can really stretch the defense with outside shooting. and if you go against teams with bigs who can shoot the 3, you have yi who has enough length instead of a 6'7" guy (landry) who wont be able to block those shots. and yi's length alone should give him one or two more rebounds more than hustle alone. give the guy a break. bargnani was said to be a bust after his rookie year, but look at him now. people want to trade for him. the same could be said for yao .
Scola is a horrible defender compared to Milsap. Scola won't dunk the ball he'll spin and lay it in. It's not length which makes you a center. Yi is softer than Yao. We saw with the griz what happens when a soft player gets hacked.
Either way, scola is better than milsap, so ill stick with him. as for yi being softer than yao, like i said, give him time. he'll improve. at least he has height and length. that's not something landry can achieve no matter what he does. 6'7", short arms and a knee injury already.
I was playing around with the trade machine and came up with these two deals. Both deals are a technical fit in terms of money, I guess it remains to be seen how popular they might be. First Deal : Houston sends Yao Ming and Luther Head to Atlanta for Josh Smith and Al Horford. We may or may not have to take on a third player in order to relieve some of Atlanta's financial outlay. I think Atlanta would make a deal like this as it puts a face on their franchise, something they haven't had since 'Nique. They get an instant marketing motherlode. Second Deal : Houston sends Ron Artest, Rafer Alston, and Luis Scola to the LA Clippers for Baron Davis and a draft pick. I believe the Clippers would do this in a heartbeat. Baron doesn't want to be there. They gain 3 legitimately solid NBA players. While it's rough to lose Scola in this way, I personally think he won't get much better than he currently is. He's a very good player, not one with "great" potential. I say trade him while he looks marketable. Although, if it were possible to do the deal without losing Scola, I'd work it from that angle as well. I just think including him makes the deal look much more attractive at this point. Post-trades Rockets lineup : C - Al Horford PF - Josh Smith SF - Shane Battier PG - Baron Davis SG - Tracy McGrady Bench Rotation : Frontcourt - Mutombo, Landry, Barry Backcourt - Brooks, Wafer Any thoughts? My goal was to add a little more scoring punch (through raw scoring ability or assists) while making the team more athletic. I believe the starting 5 above would be able to run with the best of them or play the halfcourt game. We have a few guys who can play the 1 or 2 position as well as a couple who can play the 4 or 5 spot. Anyway, food for thought. Thanks
