I would do that too......he is a great rebounder, can play the 3 or 4, and can stretch the defense with his 3 ball. I have wanted Jamison as a Rocket since the day he came into the league. DD
Do the Wizards want Head? Maybe they'd want a draft pick instead of that. Or Brooks. Try this: Jamison for Artest and Brooks
I think he had head for the salary dump would be over 10mil dumped, but then again they get a pg to play while arenas is out so either should work man I like artest but this would be better for the team I guess
you could always include that lafrenze guy and add some fillers from our side ofcourse lafranze would be a filler for them and not be playing for us.
7 footers don't grow on trees and why would the Blazers give up a 20/10 guy? especially when there's nothing on the Rockets that would interest them. The Blazers trade with Alrdidge is not happening...Outlaw is more realistic. Well if you give up Brooks, then you lose a valuable ball handler, better thing to do is give up Head and a draft pick (will probably be in the late 20s anyways so won't be worth much). Your adding much needed talent and leadership to your squad so if I were the Rockets GM I would be watching the Wizards carefully to see when they put Jamison on the block...its not a matter of when, its if.
Im not sure what I think the Rockets should do. I want something done but I still like the teams talent pertintial. Not sure if this was already suggested but what about: Atrtest+Head+Hayes+Dorsey+cash for V.Carter. They buyout Hayes with cash and we resign him.
doesnt VC require the ball just as well isnt that the problem right now artest and tmac both want the ball i think 16 is the max (players). does that mean you cannot exceed on a trade or you can but you have to cut some? whats the rule here?
I hope somehow we can land Marcus Camby... we don't have enough athelticism inside and he would certainly help in that aspect
boy having Carter would be awesome too we'll be set offensively Carter is a waayyy better penetrator & shooter than Artest he's D is questionable thou but its k atleast we still got shane....
The only player available who could really help us now, IMHO, is Captain Kirk. Imagine Yao drawing the double-team and kicking it back out to the wide-open Hinrich, or over to Wafer or Barry or Brooks or Battier (if he gets back to being Battier). Hinrich would fit the putative Adelman offense well-- and Hinrich can defend!
The 'big question' is how do you upgrade the point without giving up too much *AND/OR* taking on too much in salary? This is precisely why i'm against the Hinrich trade talks, for the most part. I know he's a better defender and slightly better fit than Rafer but at the end of the day you're talking about a guy who's numbers are INFERIOR to Rafer's in each of the last two seasons. Not only that but you're paying him $8-10M a year until the time Obama is done with his first term. That's an enormous and likely unnecessary risk, IMO. Think about that versus a low risk move like a Ramon Sessions, Jarret Jack, Kyle Lowry, Keyon Dooling or somebody like that. Under which scenario are we better off? You want your crazy, sexy 'bold' move? Let me know if Calderon becomes available once Toronto blows up that disaster of a team. Then we'll talk bold and sexy. Just my opinion though.
According to ESPN, Washington may be trying to move Jamison if the team takes on Etan Thomas' ugly 2 yr ~$14 million contract. How about Battier + Artest + Head for Jamison + Thomas + Nick Young? As a team, we need a long defender/proven scorer rather than uni-taskers like Battier. Although Jamison is not as tenacious a defender as either of these two, he can still defend pretty well AND would be a major complement to Yao's game. The fact that he can grab rebounds extremely well will take the pressure off of Yao to do something that we all know is too slow to do. With Thomas, you get a decent big man that can actually be a viable backup for Yao. At 6-10 260 lbs, he is a bigger version of Chuck Hayes and a better shot blocker. Although they both have poor offensive games, i don't think i have seen a player with a worse offense than Hayes since Ryan Bowen. Finally, getting rid of Head is nice, but it makes the deal that much sweeter that we pick up massive potential in Nick Young!!! Aaron can score, but this guy seems to have a much higher ceiling. Plus he is 6-6. He isn't a dedicated defender, but neither was Head. This move frees up Hayes and (possibly) Brooks to be moved for Travis Outlaw and Sergio Rodriguez from Portland or whatever else Morey decides. With these trades we end up with this lineup: Yao/Thomas/Deke Scola/Landry/Hayes Jamison/Wafer McGrady/Barry/Young Alston/Brooks If you do the Outlaw move, you replace Brooks with Rodriguez and put Outlaw behind Jamison. But that is a big IF Portland lets go. The Washington trade is ideal for the Wiz b/c they get rid of Thomas' ugly contract and get an expiring in the process. With Battier, they get trade bait for more picks or whatever. Head is useless to everybody. Tho Rox do this trade b/c Young has much more potential than Head and Thomas is a good defender and shotblocker. Artest and Battier have shown that they do not fit too well in our offense. Artest still demands the ball too much and Battier CANNOT be offensively useful outside of the corner three-ball. Battier's defense is not what it used to be and not contributing to the win-now attitude. Most importantly, we get a long defender/versatile scorer/long rebounder in Jamison. I cannot find too many other players who would complement Yao as well as he does. Plus, I would NOT want to resign Artest to a deal after this season. However, I definitely would resign Jamison. The bottom line is that we get much younger, increase potential, increase offensive output, become faster, become bigger and end up with more options than that "Tracy Jack-up" or "Throw it to Yao in the Post" or "try to find Battier or Artest so they can Jack-up a 3 ball" when we start losing control of the game. A big three is supposed to be able to complement each other AND be able to find their own shot when necessary. Artest is a wonderful player, but he doesn't complement Yao's game. Trying to jam him in as a 3pt threat and getting upset at him when he goes back to the offense that he is actually good at is NOT his fault. When you look at Boston, their big three is doing what they have always been doing, with a little modification. Same goes for the Lakers. Think about it.
haha, sorry didn't see above that Jamison has already been discussed. But my proposal actually works and seems logical for both teams
Thought about it and I have to disagree with the bolded part. The biggest part to Yao support offense is playing the wing and being a threat enough to keep the defender on you and not doubling Yao. Now isnt Artest one of better 3 point shooters at the moment? You also want someone with hustle to help with long rebounds and the such. You also want someone who can man up and voice up (vocal is very important for Yao) and who else other then Ron. I will give Tmac the benefit of the doubt and say he is equal to Ron in the 3 point shooting although Ron is shooting 2 percent better (how much will that add up to?). But to think Tmac has the amount of hustle in his game TODAY as Ron is lying to yourself. And to think that Tmac will always be by Yao side and not joking with the guy who just fouled Yao (trust me I've seen it). Bare with me on this one but Tmac is Tmac first. Ron will be a Yao supporter as long as he wears red. It is easy to see this difference. Maybe Tmac is tired of playing with this team or with Yao. But let me get back to the Magic Cav's games, its a freaking dunk contest and 3 point shoot out. Kinda like the all star side games!@
I wouldn't give up Brooks to get Jamison. The Wizards are having buyer's remorse with the hefty deals they dished out to Arenas and Jamison this past summer. Us being willing to take his contract off their hands provides as much incentive for them to do any deal as we have. This Jamison suggestion is interesting (and realistic), I just don't know how he would fit. I understand Jamison brings versatility and has always been adaptable, all the same he's getting older and slower. Whenever I watch him play he looks to almost exclusively be playing at the four -- an area that's the least of our concern. Do we make a move like this and roll with Jamison/Scola at the four then look to move Landry for a PG? I don't know. That's a lot of tweaking on a team that might not necessarily need that drastic of a move. I suppose we can play small line ups and still use Landry or Jamison as a five while trying to make room to accommodate everybody. I still don't know though. I will say it would be nice to have him on our team instead of KILLING us every time we play them. I don't think that's reason enough to pull the trigger on a deal though.
Hinrich's been hurt, but he's coming around. Kyle Lowry would be my second choice. I agree on Calderon. Down the line: Ricky Rubio. And whatever happened to that tall PG from summer league (can't recall his name)? Any of these guys would upgrade our PG position. Money ruins the game, I think. Once these guys get "paid," they get fat. Literally. Contracts, luxury tax considerations, and marketing dictate player personnel decisions. How I wish players had to win for their money. Perhaps that will be the direction the pro game takes as we get through this next decade of global depression.
