As much as some posters hate this trade idea because they are unable to wrap their mind around Dinwiddie's value, it obviously has legs.
To give credit where credit is due this is an extension of a trade suggested by @treyk3. His proposal involved sending Tucker and Exum to Denver for Harris and goodies. I just put some meat on those bones and folded in an Oladipo to Miami deal. But yeah, this is the type of deal that I think Stone should be looking at. Miami is the only team that I think even thinks about hesitating. Precious is a valuable player but a) he cant play with Bam and b) he probably isnt a factor in the playoffs this season. Oladipo would have 25 or so games to get acclimated and would seem to be a good fit beside Butler. The move also allows them to bring Herro off the bench where his defensive shortcomings are less of a problem.
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: +6.1 ppg, +0.6 rpg, and +0.2 apg. Incoming Players Montrezl Harrell 27 year old, 6-8, 240 lb F from Louisville 13.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.1 minutes in 2020-2021 Alex Caruso 27 year old, 6-5, 186 lb G from Texas A&M 5.8 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 2.4 apg in 19.9 minutes in 2020-2021 Outgoing Players P.J. Tucker 35 year old, 6-6, 245 lb SF from Texas 4.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 30.0 minutes in 2020-2021 Danuel House 27 year old, 6-7, 215 lb F from Texas A&M 9.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 27.3 minutes in 2020-2021
Change in Team Outlook: -1.9 ppg, -0.9 rpg, and +0.6 apg. Incoming Players P.J. Tucker 35 year old, 6-6, 245 lb SF from Texas 4.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 1.4 apg in 30.0 minutes in 2020-2021 Outgoing Players Derrick Favors 29 year old, 6-10, 265 lb FC from Georgia Tech 6.3 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 0.8 apg in 16.2 minutes in 2020-2021
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -4.1 ppg, +0.1 rpg, and -0.4 apg. Incoming Players Josh Green 20 year old, 6-6, 210 lb SG from Arizona 2.3 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.9 minutes in 2020-2021 Outgoing Players Ben McLemore 28 year old, 6-5, 195 lb SG from Kansas 6.4 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 15.7 minutes in 2020-2021
The way dipper is playing, I am starting to wonder if our turned down extension offer ends up being the best one he gets. He may regret passing it up.
I kind of feel like we never really offered it but both mutually agreed that news was beneficial to both parties to release.
Here's a trade: Rockets trade: Oladipo, Exum to the Warriors Warriors trade: Wiggins, Poole, and the Min 1st rounder This is a poison pill trade. Wiggins is owed 30+M for two more seasons. GSW is wildly over the cap and will owe a huge luxury tax payment next season, and with Klay coming back Wiggins is pointless. Poole is a young player they like and put up some good G-League stats but he's unlikely to be an improvement over Klay/Steph and they have a glut at that position. Exum is an expiring contract. This deal sheds 30M+ off their cap that they would be paying for the next two seasons, a price they can't afford for a middling and mediocre team with two supermax contracts and Draymond making 25M+ for the next three seasons after this one. If they plan to make another run with the Steph/Klay/Draymond, a high draft pick hardly matters as that player won't be fully up to speed and ready to go for two seasons (rookie years are usually learning years), and they still have their FRP which should be in the 10-15 range. We end up absorbing one of the worst contracts in the league in Andrew Wiggins. Wiggins is a player I have never liked and do not think is very good. He will impede our youth movement, but we will get a high pick with Minnesota and Poole should give us someone worth taking a look at. If we trade away Tucker for pick(s) and House, EG, etc. then we'll have some roster space to absorb the high salary with.
Like it a lot but want to modify it Oladipo, Tucker, Exum ...for... Wiggins & Wiseman Cleaner transaction they keep the hope of the pick and we get a building block in Wiseman. Wiggins is more than playable just way over paid. They cleans their debt and can now get one more run with their core with open cap space.
I don't see GSW trading Wiseman. They'll trade Draymond before him. Also, Tucker is not a valuable player to them, at all.
Agreed. Tucker means nothing - they have Dray already. Wiseman s their starting 5, and they have no other legitimate 5 who can play. No chance they move him
Wiseman was the #2 overall pick and is shooting almost 40% from 3-point range and 52% FG. His per 48 stats are equally impressive and next year he will almost assuredly make a large leap in his stats and skills. Zero chance you would ever consider trading a player like that.
Tucker has the contract to make the money match. He would see some time in a limited roll with the absence of Wiseman and Wiggins. They are not trading to obtain players but to move cap. We have seen them load up in free agency. Holding onto Wiseman or pushing hard for one last chance at a championship with the aging core that’s done it before? They still have the Minnesota pick, too.
I predict the Rockets trade PJ for Ferguson, Poirer and 2021 2nd round pick.. I think it favors Philly, but there isn't much else aside from 2022 picks. Embid's injury may have given the Rockets some leverage.
We'll see, I figure Stone will want his assets as liquid as possible until lottery day, but Thybulle probably has more value alone than the late 2nd I proposed. I just don't want to pay Thybulle 15 million a year in 3 years to be the next PJ. Elite defense and no offense. It's too hard to evaluate market value for a fringe starter. Thybulle is an excellent 3 and D player for a championship team with creators, but if nobody can create around him, he's underutilized.
