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Ramadan means no water during workouts for Husain Abdullah

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ABrooks0, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. ABrooks0

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    WHAT! I don't know anyone that died through fasting? I might be wrong though. But listen, we take things for granted. Food and water, we take it for granted. While fasting we learn to be patient.
     
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    I'm specifically talking about the story in the OP. Its a player playing in the middle of August with pads on. Theres a pretty decent chance for dehydration and overheating there.
     
  3. ABrooks0

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    Perhaps, but I think there going to play smart here. Maybe take it easy on him, give him more breaks, etc.
     
  4. ABrooks0

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    Hakeem did it, I know he can. I know the circumstances are different. But if you have a strong will, you'll get through it!
     
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    thread is D&D bound anyway.... might as well troll....

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  7. RV6

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    for those of you familiar with Ramadan, is there any way to cheat, incase this guy starts having trouble during a practice? And if there is technically a way, is he likely to take it, or is he more likely to end his practice?
     
  8. ABrooks0

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    Cheating will break your fast.
     
  9. RV6

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    So it's an extremely strict fast? But to what extent? What about IV fluids? What if you faint, are you required to let the team know you refuse an IV ahead of time? Or if you accept it, there's no way to continue the fast?
     
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    This sounds like its very dangerous for a football player.

    Hakeem pulled it off in air conditioning... this dude, he'll be lucky if he doesn't pull a Korey Stringer.
     
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    I'm not quite sure. I believe it will still break your fast. Can anyone else give a specific answer?
     
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    If complications occur(life endangerment) , you are allowed to break your fast
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    If I was a team I would not allow him to do this. What if something happens potential lawsuit.
     
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    Islam is about moderation.

    If he feels like he can't handle it and his life or body might be in danger because of fasting, he can break it and make it up another day after Ramadan. That actually goes for anyone who feel they won't be able to make it until dusk. If you have to take medication then you are excused from fasting. If you are pregnant, or breast feeding, you are excused from fasting. If you are a child you are excused from it. If you are traveling you are excused from it. If for any legit reason you are not able to fast, you are excused from it.
     
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    Fasting is required for the healthy and able. For example if you are pregnant or are within the first year of your baby being born, you're not supposed to fast. If you are physically unable, you are not required to fast.

    again, the purpose of this is NOT focused on FOOD and DRINKS. read the link I posted in the first page.
     
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    lol religion
     
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    Just hope the man makes it through without any problems.

    I'm also seeing some usual culprits from the D&D section here.....hopefully nothing happens :rolleyes:
     
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    first of all, i apologize if i offend anyone. really, this is just my view

    i was born into a muslim family, grew up as a muslim kid, and still identify myself as a muslim but im probably an agnostic. my problem with islam is the same problem i have with all other religion, so its nothing against islam.

    i dont pray but i do fast. i think fasting humbles you and makes you be a better human being (not just muslim). there are ppl in this world whove never went hungry or thirsty. they overindulge in excess of everything and i think it affects their character.
     
  19. ThaRed

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    Nizari Muslims don't *have* to do it. But if they want, they can. Most of them usually do it for a day.
     
  20. Pharaoh King

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    Wow! I couldn't help but respond to this, since your interpretation of fasting seems to be quite extreme.

    Muslims are absolutely PERMITTED (even encouraged in some cases, as it is called a sunnah to do so) to break their fast given certain circumstances -- it is called rokhsa in Arabic. If someone faints or if fasting is threatening his very health and well-being, it is no longer optional to break his fast, but in fact mandatory, as self-preservation is the highest priority. That is why for example, a Muslim is permitted to consume even alcohol for medicinal purposes or given other extreme conditions -- the example of a Muslim wandering in a desert with no water in sight and alcohol being the only fluid available to him comes to mind. In this specific example, fainting or experiencing extreme dehydration while in need of IV fluids would CERTAINLY qualify.

    There are also a multitude of other reasons that would permit a Muslim to break his fast. Traveling, for an instance. Most Muslims scholars agree that traveling more than 83 kilos (roughly 60 miles) or more between different cities would qualify you as a traveler, and therefore you can break your fast. Now, I never do it myself, since modern traveling in a car or by plane is quite easy and not really that demanding a task any longer, but mainstream scholars agree it qualifies as a rokhsa.

    Islam was meant as a middle-road religion, and Muslims are ALWAYS encouraged to be moderate in all things, and not to nitpick their religion like people before them did (surat Al-Baqarah mentions this in some detail).

    specifically regarding Ramadan and fasting:

     

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