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Rafer's shot not consistent enough/ Snyder's not a starter

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by stroker, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. awo86

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    ya, as this looks right now, i think bonzi will be starting for us. The reason snyder is starting is partly because we need more role players wif mac and better shooters wif yao and mac. but as it turns out snyder is a better fit off the bench.
     
  2. pradaxpimp

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    I concur.

    Where is all the hate for snyder coming from? Was I watching a different game? Snyder routinely took it inside. He bulled his way to the basket a few times. I'd like to see Mcgrady do that a little bit more often. Albeit, snyder's ft shooting is something to be desired for, but when u start to get fouled, ur doing something right.
     
  3. stroker

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    " I'm pretty sure the only way this board would give him any props is if he shot 10-8, hitting imaginary shots while he's on the bench."

    Purdy much (good one) LOL....Didn't Rafer's shot heat up and improve towards the end of last season as well?

    My question is how does a team consider it'self in the upper tier of the the Western Conference with Rafer FREAKING Alston as their starting PG?

    the prosecution rests it's it's :rolleyes: case.....
     
  4. jcee15

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    Tony parker is by no means 'pure money'. Carry on.
     
  5. magnetik

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    I don't think the remarks about Snyder was justified. Hell.. so what if he misses a few ft's.. He got the fouls.. and went to the rack with authority... something the Rockets have been lacking lately. He showed heart.
     
  6. stroker

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    Perhaps not pure paper from the arc, but Sam Cassell (and soon Randy Livingston will be) of the Clippers is, Chris Paul is pure as a PG for Okl/NO, Mike Bibby in Sac is, Baron Davis in Oaktown is, Andre Miller usually is but is much better than what we have, as is Luke Ridnour of Seattle and that's just the Western Conference. Face it, we have one of the weakest PG's in the West and have aspirations to be in the upper tier of the West?.

    We are not ready to dine with the big boyz til we get THE baller at PG.....
    ....don't make me go east coast :rolleyes: and don't get me wrong, I get ectstatic every time Rafer busts a trey but put things in perspective leaguewide. We're bottom of the barrel point guard wise in the association IMHO....I'm not hatin' on Alston, just statin' (presumed) fact that, we ain't goin' nowhere NEAR the top with him at PG....
    ....but that's just me :p
     
  7. 11yrs-5Crowns

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    I can't think of a worse starting backcourt than Alston / Snyder.

    Seriously, name one worse than this backcourt.

    My dream of course is Sura / Wells. But in the interim I would take McGrady moving to the 2 and Novak at the 3.
     
  8. geeimsobored

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    Our PG situation is dreadful and there's no two ways around that. I can't think of another team with a worse collection of point guards. We're weak in that area and there's debating that fact.

    That being said, have some patience. It's one game and its too early to judge whether Rafer can't shoot or whether we are screwed on the whole. We'll be fine and things will settle as time progresses.
     
  9. wreck

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    I didnt read your post but ur title says it all... and here is my opinion on the second one "snyders not a starter"...

    You are wrong wrong wrong! Last year was there a player outside of yao and tmac that attacked the basket as consistantly as Snyder? NO. Notice I said attack the basket, he had 3 or 4 layups that just rolled out of the rim, but got freethrows on 2 of those cases. Im not saying hes perfect, all he needs to do is let 3 of those shots roll in and hit 80 percent of his free throws and all of a sudden hes a bright spot. The point is he attacked the basket when shots where not going in.

    Sure Bonzi will play better that snyder, but snyder is a quality starter. Bonzi has and will be a spark off the bench. ANd he'll go 20-10 some nights. Sure Bonzi should get the start but Snyder is a quality starter.
     
  10. Chronz

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    Umm that was a whole season ago, it was just one game and ive seen him play every game in Miami so that equals 161 games so does that make me more of an expert than you? And he shot the ball pretty good for them and Toronto
     
  11. Matchman

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    name one frontcourt that is better than ours (Tmac - Battier - Yao)
    the truth is....u cannot be better than the other team in every position
    where were you when Alston was hitting all the outside shots in the preseason? he is not steve nash but he is definitely serviceable

    all shooters have offnights. Although he should not lay that many bricks, judge him base on one game is not fair. Gilbert Arenas got only one 3-pointers to go last night, does that mean he sucks?
     
  12. durvasa

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    These threads are getting annoying. Nothing is "clear" after a single game. We lost to a good team, on the road, without one of our better players activated. And now all you loonies are in panic mode.

    The Rockets as a team were 10-22 from beyond the arc. Rafer was 3-8 and Snyder was 1-1. Our perimeter shooting was not the problem. And no sensible person could draw the conclusion that Rafer and Snyder are going to struggle from beyond the arc the rest of the season based on this one game.
     
  13. dookiester

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    seriously. you can't have a top 10 player at every position, and that list of pg's you listed are pretty much the cream of the crop. but you're totally right. this team would look alot better if we had mike bibby at point, kobe at shooting guard, lebron at sf, dwight howard at pf, and yao at center. tmac, tim duncan, and chris paul can come off the bench. allen iverson can be our emergency scorer in case kobe or lebron get hurt.
     
  14. Panda

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    That's why we're not blessed with losing Mike James.

    Lucas is a midget. V-Span has an ugly shot. Rafer plays matador defense. Wells is an one year rental and not a pg.

    Ok, this is not about Mike James, this is about our need for a pg who has no apparent holes in the makeup of his game.

    It's only one game for Rafer. I'd give him one month to show his supposedly improvement on shooting and defense. And we need Lucas and V-Span to step up fast.
     
  15. Freik

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    ONE GAME!
     
  16. 99bb

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    The biggest problem is T-mac's consistency. His 33% FG and 61.5% FT last night was just not good enough. Unless he improves, I can't see any hope for rox.

    How to get his hands hot again is the major concern. We will not win any game with his 8-24 FG. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Shroopy2

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    If we're talking about needing outside shooting, please don't bring Bonzi's name into it. I know we're needing someone to pick someone but man. How about giving credit for the Jazz for SHOWING up defending their home floor and taking the Rockets out their game and just plain beating them.

    Yao needs to stay in the game, Shane needs more boards, same story with Tracy needing to stop heaving outside shots and get in for easier ones (and hit the free throws when he's there), need Bonzi for more talent, need to play DEFENSE. The Suns looked pitiful their first night then the following night against a playoff club they looked like themselves again so let's hope the Rockets can do the same their second game
     
  18. koopa

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    Indeed, it was one game. But Rafer is the same player as last year is he not? What worries me is after 800 jumpers per day he's still laying bricks on his mansion. He still has the same characteristics of unable to defend man on man, or make the open shots when it counts (first 0-6). When we wre losing by 20 he started scoring!! I'm not blaming it 100% on rafer ..tmac played horribly ..he seemed to have a free role and would do anything he wanted without playing team basketball.
    There's also a missing presence inside because only yao able to rebound and score. The rest cant rebound or score in the paint.

    I watched laker basketball and i'm pretty sure PJ is the mastermind of their great 'team' basketball. That's just a gr8 example, ever since he took over, the team play well with or without their stars. ahem..JVG is the mastermind of our horrible basketball? We just did not execute on both ends of the floor. If jvg doesnt fix it..or bonzi, or sura..all i know is, we're not playing as a team..rafer isnt running plays or defending..can't blame it all on him either since jvg's style just doesnt work altogether so far..
    Things seem to flow better with players who can execute and run plays ..ex: sura, nash, def. not rafer.
     
  19. Zboy

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    You are being too kind. It's not a mansion anymore. By mid 2005-2006 season, its status was officially changed to tower.

    Of course Rafer is the same player as he was last year. He is 30 years old. What do people expect him to do? Put on a robe and a magic hat over the offseason and go Kobe on everyone??!

    Taking 800 jumpshots a day over the summer is not going to make much of a difference when his game has more holes than flour sieve.

    If it did, I would be in the NBA right now. The only things holding me back from the NBA is my lack of shooting and the fact that I am damn good looking!
     
  20. tigermission1

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    LOL! One of the few reasons why I still read the GARM once in a while...can't wait for ZBoy's response once JVG decides to insert J-Ho into the starting lineup. :D
     

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