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Rafer breaks own franchise mark

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. choujie

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    Well. Rafer's taking a ton of 3 pointers, that should be considered. His TS% is 48.7%, which is still low, but he's ahead of Wells, Vspan, JLIII and Novak.
     
  2. R0ckets03

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    What a freakin scrub! :mad:
     
  3. AMS

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    haters...
     
  4. Clutch

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    I haven't posted a single opinion in this thread to this point. Are you going to disagree with Deke's blocked shot totals too?
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Exactly !

    Clutch is probably posting the info to show how much room for improvement Rafer has...I mean look at him...worst in history, he can only get better, right?

    Or is that what we said before last night took him even lower?

    I am sooooo confused !

    :D

    Oh, and here is my opinion:

    Rafer Sucks, and not just sucks but sucks worse than any Rocket in history, he is setting new records for suckage. If he continues to suck even more, JVG may have to finally acknowledge Rafer's suckicity and limit him to only 34 minutes a game.

    DD
     
  6. SamFisher

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    It IS considered. That's what TS% and eFG% do.

    That's why it's problematic that the guy with the 11th best TS% or eFG% on the entire team has taken the second most shots.
     
  7. durvasa

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    As poorly as Rafer has shot the ball, it's still clear that we are at our best when he's on the floor, because we don't have another decent PG. It's sad, but true.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    The worst thing is that this has been glaringly obvious to even amateur analysts like ourselves and the team wasn't able to do anything about it. It may have been that Minnesota was asking too high for James - but I really wish we had sold high on Howard or whoever they were asking for before the spit and chewing gum began to wear off last weak....
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Not true, we have an unproven PG on the bench. I for one would like to see what he is capable of bringing to the table. At least as a backup.

    DD
     
  10. Will

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    Yeah, but stroke it, and it's a briefcase.
     
  11. francis 4 prez

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    my first guess was cousy. guy shot 35.2% in '51 and '53 and bumped it all the way up to 35.3% in '58 and he was shooting on the order of 1200 shots in each of those seasons. so not quite the prolific shooter walker was, but much worse.

    of course the 60's were a much lower field goal percentage time (wilt led in '61 at 50.9%) so a) it's really applicable in a rafer comparison and b) there are probably people worse than cousy. in fact, i seem to recall one time looking up a HOFer or all-star type player who had a couple of seasons right around 33.3%. i don't know of a way on basketballreference to look up fg%. that site is awesome but it sucks that they have fg and fga in the stat labs, but don't add the seeminly easy to add fg%, or 3pt% and ft% for that matter. but the boxscores search ****ing rules.


    edit: it was kc jones and his 33.9 and 33.8 seasons in 59 and 61. but he only had 192 and 601 fga.
     
  12. tmega21

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    Bad choice of words...lets insert...negative bias instead of opinion. I didn't notice you starting any records about TMacs historic low 3 pt % for the number he took last year? He's the star I know, but...
     
  13. ivanyy2000

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    Forget about it. Most of Rox fans don't even consider trading Chunk Hayes + Sura for James. They said it would be a rip-off and Hayes is too "valuable" to this team.

    Talking about low basketball IQ.
     
  14. durvasa

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    That trade should be considered, and it was. Of course I wouldn't call it a "rip-off", but personally I'd be opposed to it. Chuck provides good value considering his meager salary. I think he's a great complimentary player when we have enough offensive weapons on the court at the other positions (Yao + McGrady should do it). He's young, so I still have hopes that he'll improve. And he's just one of those players I root for -- big time hustler, undersized, efficient despite a lack of scoring talent, smart defensive player.

    All that said, I was one of the few who endorsed the Juwan for Mike James trade. Perhaps I'm just showing my personal bias there.
     
  15. NewYorker

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    Yes, I know Rafer is a point guard, but he's also the worst shooting (percentage) guard in the league. Why else would I be talking about the pg position and mention Steve Francis.

    Look, at this point, JL3 would be an upgrade. Given enough playing time, anyone can do better. Rafer shoots horribly - just absolutely horribly. He's eratic, he doesn't make good passes, he can't penetrate and dish (he penetrates and shoots)....he turns the ball over on the pick-and-roll, and has a habit of making poor decisions.

    You can say Battier is much better then his stats, and Rafer is far worse then his.

    Rafer is the worst thing to happen to this team. We were a better team with Mike James at the point, and we will be a better TEAM when Rafer is gone.
     
  16. HeyDude

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    There is no but.......when rafer starts dropping 30 a night on 44% shooting, no one would hate on him either.......hey, no one wants him to do bad. Its just that he sucks, and keeps shooting!
     
  17. VicVictory

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    I disagree. I think some fans do wish Rafer does bad just so they can prove their point, criticize his game and keep bringing up how V-Span needs to play.
     
  18. Nice Rollin

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    the point has already been made......if he starts to do better, people will recognize his improvment and give him "his props" that he deserves. if he starts going a good 5-8...4-7...and improve about maybe 2 assists a game...instaed of 5-13 and 6-15 from the field, i guarentee the "haters" will give him credit.
     
  19. jlwee

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    Can someone who watched enough of T-wolves tell me what is happening to Mike James? He was struggling even when he was starting? Loss of interest after signing the big fat contract???

    Another alternate solution to rockets' PG problem could be Kirk Synder. Head couldnt passed, VSpan is unproven in NBA, Lucas is a SG in PG body. Synder is the only player left with good PG experience. Maybe JVG should look at Synder in certain situation. Of cos Synder has his shortcomings i.e not a good 3pt shooter but at least he can penetrate/slash to the basket and can really finish!
     
  20. solid

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    Alston is so bad, that not liking him does not qualify as "hating." I saw him play about three times before I concluded that the Rockets had made a huge mistake. Considering their ongoing pursuit of Mike James, they must have come to the same conclusion.

    It is not that he isn't a nice kid, fine fellow, etc. Actually, he handles the ball really well, but his shortcomings far outweigh his contributions. He must be replaced period, and I have never waivered in my opinion. For two seasons it has been glaringly obvious, that he is the weak link on the team, both offensively and defensively. Actually he gets far too much credit when he has his few decent games per season. The overall numbers tell the story. I think he can be bench player for 5-10 minutes per game. The team would be sooooo much better with a shooting threat at the PG positon. Nothing personal.
     

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