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Rafer Alston...weakest link

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jondoe, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. redao

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    oddly enough, the Rockets team did not went down when Brooks did his ballhog thing. Instead, NO, Celtics, Denver went down...
     
  2. BrooksBall

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    You may be right but Tony Parker is also a PG that needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He isn't the best playmaker by any means, either. So, by your definition, Parker is a ballhog, too.

    Chris Paul probably dominates the ball more than any other PG in the league. Of course, he is a world class playmaker so it works.

    By no means am I trying to compare Brooks to Parker or Paul. I'm just saying you can't simply equate needing the ball to be effective with "Mike James type PG." There are "ball hogs" that are effective and others that are not.

    Adelman has played and coached in this league for around 30 years. He wanted to draft Brooks. Only time will tell if Brooks is nothing more than a wannabe Mike James or something more.
     
  3. jondoe

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    Thats not a ball hogger. That is how he plays. Now if he jacks up shots left and right when guys are open, thats another story. But all I can say is that when Von Wafer was wide open in the corner, Brooks found him. And he wouldn't be wide open in the corner if Brooks had not split the double team and attacked the paint.
    James doesnt have the attacking ability that Brooks has. When brooks breaks down the defense, it makes it all the easier on the rest of the team. Even with Yao's putback against Boston, the defense broke down because Brooks penetrated and caused everyone to shift.
     
  4. plutoblue11

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    Rafer is almost dead last in FG% of all point guards, not *STARTERS*....*POINT GUARDS.*

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/b...&qualified=0&conference=NBA&year=season_2008/

    35% Field goal for 2 point shooting is horrible. Per 20 field goal attempts, Alston is only making a little over 7.

    That's awful for a point guard.

    I hope this team can get a passing guard before the All-Star break, he doesn't have to be a good shooter, if he can just find open players and drive to basket, like Brooks.
     
  5. larsv8

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    This team is not well constructed. We probably give more wide open shots to bad shooters than any team in the league.
     
  6. trueroxfan

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    rafer can penetrate, because of his dribble, but he can't finish for ****! he does that dumb floater, he just do what every other point guard does, run into the big man...if not go further to the rim and do what tmac does, dish out to the open guy. the d almost always will collapse into the pain and ball watch, leaving an open man
     
  7. shortfuse3

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    rafer's floater is the ugliest thing ive ever seen. i shoot lots of floaters too, and they're pretty hard to hit on the run. you basically need a really soft touch and good accuracy. rafer is not even close on most of his floaters.
     
  8. Kwame

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    Another game with Rafer shooting 1-7 from the field. The team will not be successful with the weakest link being so weak.
     
  9. pippendagimp

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    He just flat-out f#$*ing sucks. We all know it, the opposing teams and their announcers know it - and yet Morey and the coaches stick with him to no end :(
     
  10. northeastfan

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    It's getting beyond embarrassing. I mean he's costing us big time. How can that *not* be obvious to Idleman and Morey?

    Mind you when TSlack was costing us big time (Raptors, 76ers), Idleman left him in the game.
     
  11. Jeff Who

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    I think it is too much, I am DONE with this guy. Past few games, I don't remember him knocking down ANY outside jumper.

    And a nice, WIDE OPEN LAYUP, but even those shots are too difficult for this freaking idiot. As I said, I am DONE with him and he is gonna KILL this team in the postseason.
     
  12. jVgOwnsYou

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    Stop the presses! He just hit a shot!
     
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    I am sorry. Maybe that got him going, he had a great game. 17/6/6
     
  15. Yao4REAL

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    Morey is stupid every year for keeping Rafer. Dude suck ass at driving and floater. He is simply a spot up shooter and nothing else. A terrible shooter as well and can't shoot off the dribble. Why would you want to continue keeping a player like that?? I rather keep Von Wafer than Rafer because at least Wafer attack the basket and finish it and is consistent with his outside shots.
     
  16. janpwnz

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    I seriously don't mind this lineup at all.

    C-Yao
    PF-Scola
    Sf-Battier
    Sg-Von Wafer
    Pg-T-mac

    Von Wafer has proved to us that he can flat out sink anything through the net from many variety of ways. If T-mac doesn't mind to take that 18pts and 10 assists role I would much rather have Von as our starting Sg. We can then sub Artest, AB0 as Sg and Rafer as Pg with Carl and Deke. That's a good depth for 2nd unit. With Brent Barry/Luther as 3pt specialist where they can sub in for sg/pg when any of them are not feeling it for the night. I think this might just work. Only if T-mac agrees to cut down on his shot attempt tho ><
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Agreed....that is the way to go....once everyone is ehem.."conditioned".

    DD
     
  18. janpwnz

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    beside, having 10 assists = xtra 20pts for the team. If he's really think that it's on him then he should see how that would work out. Beside, with Von and Battier on the wings T-mac can really attack the paint from the spacing coz unlike having Airballston on the floor, they will really need to guard the perimeter. :D :D
     
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    So, you want Wafer to guard chris paul/deron williams/derrick rose? That definitely isn't the way to go defensively. That definitely is the best lineup offensively except that the ball handling duties all fall on Tmac, and that is asking too much of him, he shouldn't nor can he bring the ball up the floor for 35-40 mins a night(not at this point in his career).

    Another problem I have with that lineup is that there isn't a true pg to push the ball up the floor, we see AB and Rafer get the ball up the floor quickly for easy buckets from time to time and just the ability to get the ball up the floor quickly and get into offensive sets early is an important thing for an offense.

    We all know Tmac will just walk the ball up the floor on every possession and that doesn't breed good offense.

    I think Wafer is a great player to bring off the bench, as AB is now, to help create offense and attack the basket. AB I would like to see starting b/c he really adds a whole other dimension to the starting lineup that Rafer doesn't(consistent shooting and the ability to beat his man off the dribble). Wafer and Rafer are a good combo b/c Wafer can do all the things Rafer can't.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    No, that would be Battier's job.....or maybe Wafer......whichever is having more success.


    By the way, haven't we been playing this record for 4 years now...how sad is that?


    DD
     

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