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Rafer Alston vs. Mike James vs. Steve Francis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Nov 16, 2007.

  1. duteman

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    Stevie played well and i think he settled for jumpers cuz he looked a bit winded. I'm going to have to take back what i've said before to some point but stevie does need to get in shape to reach the top.

    He is still better than the rest of our guards at point but if he's serious about this season i hope he needs to condition himself so he can penetrate better, d up better, and #1 last longer to keep the other noob guards from runing point
     
  2. thumbs

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    Start Steve, Bonzi, T-Mc (when he's ready again), Scola and Yao. Substitute MJ7, Snyder and Battier when the other team puts in their second unit. Then put Hayes on the bench for emergencies and find Rafer a bar where everybody knows his name. We'll be just fine.
     
  3. rterry

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    I agree. I was not a big fan of bringing Stevie back, but in the short exposure we just got, he looked much different and deserves a look. I still believe Rafer is the better defensive player. The other guy, Brooks, looked like the best offensive point we have. I'd rather see him get a shot.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    steve settled for jumpers because that's what guards do in adelman's offense. I don't what happened to steve's mid range game, it used to be automatic, if he can find his shot, specifically mid range, he will start.
     
  5. TeamUSA

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    I hate Mike Jame's ballhogging illness but I think we need his leadership on the floor. The only think he lacks is to realize that he is not the number option on the floor. This is his major issue. I think that's one reason why RA rarely use him with Yao and Tracy playing.
     
  6. CVcrew

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    Rafer is this team's Ryan Bowen..... we have to have a PG capable of hitting the outside shot... atleast sometimes.... this is pathetic rly!! IMO we have a roster full of backup PGs. We should try to trade for a starter, while we have the depth to do it. I love SF but in all honesty he is just a backup at this point IMO. Rafer... enough said. MJ see Francis. Head is the only one I may would even consider to run the team "IF" he can start knocking down the trey. We are gonna live or die this year by this position. Hell at this point Matt Maloney would be an upgrade!!
     
  7. poprocks

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    Well I guess this pretty much tells us what T-Mac thinks of Francis and Alston.
     
  8. BucMan55

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    Pretty much. He will get his time, and the quicker he gets into shape, the quicker that time comes.
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    Not really, it's a completely unsubstantiated rumour. TMac has been saying nothing but nice things about Francis. But what is he supposed to say? That he sucks?

    Remember TMac also said Rafer was the perfect PG for the team, and remained curiously silent abotu Steve's play.
     
  10. Cohen

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    I think you're correct. It's a tough spot, but until the rest of the team starts shooting better it won't irritate me much. If MJ continues once the team starts to click, it will become sore issue.
     
  11. DOMINATOR

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    that's it... this situation needs to be resolved in the OCTAGON.
    Rafer vs. James vs. Francis last man standing wins.
     
  12. Seven

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    Isiah's busy trying to get all three of his bigmen in his rotation at the same time, because David Lee is a beast from the outside.
     
  13. Seven

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    Mike James will mess both of them up.
     
  14. Rollazn

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    Rafer via triangle...
     
  15. poprocks

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    I expect Yao to come in then like Jabbar did in the Octagon!
     
  16. poprocks

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    How in the world did we get from here...to what we have now? :confused:

    Where Will Steve Francis End Up?
    Posted Jul 19th 2007 7:30AM by Matt Watson
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    Can Steve Francis return from being a complete afterthought to an impact player (albeit one in a supporting role)? Apparently no less than four teams think he can. Francis' agent told the Sun-Sentinel yesterday that his client is currently deciding between the Heat, Clippers, Rockets and Mavericks.

    Steve Francis Is Returning to Houston
    Posted Jul 19th 2007 2:55PM by Matt Watson
    Filed under: Heat, Clippers, Mavericks, Rockets, Eastern, Western, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, Breaking News

    Steve Francis has spurned the Clippers, Heat and Mavericks to return to his original team, the Grizzlies err, the first team he ever played for, the Rockets. From the Houston Chronicle:

    "I just hung up with Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager)," [Francis' agent Jeff] Fried said. "He is dealing with facilitating the contract.

    Rafer Arrested: Is He Done in Houston?
    Posted Aug 6th 2007 11:39AM by Bethlehem Shoals
    Filed under: Rockets, Western, NBA Police Blotter, NBA Rumors, Houston

    Ordinarily, I could care less about a drunk or slightly violent athlete. Especially in the off-season. All anyone does when they watch sports is drink, usually in public, often to excess. That's often a recipe for aggression. So who cares if the athletes themselves unwind every once in a while.

    Is Alston Crying Conspiracy?
    Posted Aug 7th 2007 10:54AM by Bethlehem Shoals
    Filed under: Rockets, Western, NBA Police Blotter, Houston

    Yesterday, I brought to you the totally unexceptional news of Rafer Alston's arrest. What made it worth reading was that, with the Rockets suddenly full of flawed point guards, this incident might have affected his standing with the team.

    Rafer Pinched for Nightclub Stabbing
    Posted Aug 28th 2007 11:39AM by Bethlehem Shoals
    Filed under: Rockets, Western, NBA Police Blotter, Houston, New York, Breaking News

    Earlier this summer, Rockets' guard Rafer Alston was picked up by the cops for punching a parking lot attendant. Now, the New York Post reports that's he's been arrested after a club brawl:

    Club Owner: Rafer Slashed No One Here
    Posted Aug 30th 2007 12:29PM by Bethlehem Shoals
    Filed under: Rockets, Western, NBA Police Blotter, Houston

    Earlier this week, Rockets guard Rafer Alston was arrested and released in connection with a knife assault. Now, club co-owner Barry Mullineaux says nothing went down in his venue, Stereo. From Newsday:

    The Rockets Can't Get Enough Point Guards
    Posted Oct 4th 2007 2:44PM by Bethlehem Shoals
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    At last count, there were five of them on the roster: Mike James, Rafer Alston, John Lucas, Steve Francis, and Aaron Brooks. Plus there's Luther Head, capable of manning the point, and Bob Sura, still under contract. What's even more astonishing--James, Francis and Brooks were all brought in this summer. Common sense said that someone had to go, most like Alston after his brushes with the law.

    Too Many Players in Houston
    Posted Oct 5th 2007 1:47PM by Tom Ziller
    Filed under: Rockets, Houston

    Houston refuses to admit its roster is too full of point guards, as Shoals relayed yesterday. But by the end of the month, the Rockets will be forced to reconcile the sheer numbers signed up for 2007-08.

    Adelman Professes Love For Rafer Alston
    Posted Oct 14th 2007 11:31AM by Tom Ziller
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    That big point guard morass in Houston has a substantial new ripple: The perceived veteran on his way out -- Rafer Alston -- has knocked Rick Adelman's socks off, says Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle. Actually, I've followed Adelman for about a decade and I don't remember him fawning over anyone like this before, except maybe Doug Christie.

    arghhh!!!
     
  17. DudeWah

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    nah dude francis would win via rear naked choke on rafer
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    He'd go enraged on rafer's ass......Mike james would probably help too ;)
     
  18. solid

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    Rafer Madness!
     
  19. daddy cool

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    NBA Basketball



    Nov. 19, 2007, 11:21PM
    ROCKETS SUMMARY



    The Francis question
    Tracy McGrady's return to the court Wednesday against Dallas could lead to Steve Francis' return to the bench.

    Rockets coach Rick Adelman said Monday that he does not plan changes to his rotation, calling Francis' first playing time of the season Saturday "a one-game situation."

    "I don't think there's anything different," Adelman said. "It's not a problem with our rotation. It's just a problem with how we're playing as a team. I don't have any plans to change that right now.

    "It's a one-game situation. He (Francis) played and I thought he did fine the other night. If you're going to make a change like that and incorporate somebody into the rotation that hasn't been in there, you need to have to decide who it is you're taking out because they didn't give me 20 more minutes to deal with.

    "That's the bottom line. I think you have to be real fair and be sure when you make a decision like that.

    "Losing four in a row ... you might make changes, but you have to remember you didn't have Tracy for 2 1/2 games in that losing streak. I think I have to be more patient than that."
     
  20. bestou

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    中国人大部分支持steve,基本都骂mike,对alston不作评价
     

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