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Rafer Alston--DNP Coach's Decision (3/4/2010)

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by cjstukenholtz, Mar 4, 2010.

  1. Shaud

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    Hate to see Rafer acting like this. I hope there is more to this story and he isn't just acting like this because he was benched. Horrible attitude if so.
     
  2. da_juice

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    poor raefar, he's good, but there just doesn't seem to be a demand for point guards in the league right now.
     
  3. rhino17

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    There is certainly no demand for PGs who can't shoot, are stupid, and have bad attitudes.
     
  4. northeastfan

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    He had to be benched. It only goes to show how bad our starters were recently ... Alston, Ryan Bowen, Chuck Hayes.
     
  5. Tiger23

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    i love the guy personally so it sucks to see him goin goin out like this.. hopefully his career wont end aftetr this season, altho his shooting % is terrible hes a really good defender he shut AB down both times we played the Heat as proof.. good luck Raf
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Exactly.

    DD
     
  7. saintja2

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    Half of his shots were 3-pointers, off which he made a respectable if not spectacular 34-36%.

    Add solid defense, low turnovers and ability to get the ball to correct spots for star teammates and I would say he was not as bad as his rep here. I always thought he would make a great backup, but it seems this is not the case.
    Didn't he have some mental syndrome (other than bricking his teardrops) that might explain some of this?
     
  8. DaDakota

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    For a guy that had excellent handles he was too cautious with the ball, never made the pass to the cutter on a PnR....

    It was strange, he was uber conservative.

    DD
     
  9. saleem

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    There was some mention of Asperger's Syndrome,but that is not true.
     
  10. saleem

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    He wasn't a good passer. He didn't want to make mistakes.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Yep, he played scared on offense, that is probably why he struggled so much at it.

    DD
     
  12. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    It was just a year ago that people thought the Rockets were crazy to trade Alston for the unproven Lowry.

    I love Daryl Morey.
     
  13. Zboy

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    Rafer is a head case who could never shoot the ball.

    It's incredible that Rockets and Gundy had visions of winning big with this guy as the starting PG.

    Rafer and Juwan as the suporting cast. *laugh*
     
  14. roslolian

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    His 3 pointers were the most open in the league. Not only were teams doubling Mac and Yao, they purposely leave him open because they know 10/10 he'll take the 3 pt shot. What does it mean for you as a pro baller you're hitting wide open 3's at only 34%? Other guys hit at that range as well, however they aren't as wide open as he is and they don't shoot as much as he does.

    The low turnovers were a misnomer, when all you do is bring the ball midcourt and pass it to Tmac then you'd probably have low turnovers too. If what you mean by getting the ball to correct spots is passing it to Tmac at the half-court line, then yeah you may have a point. At the end of the day all he really has is solid defense...and I ain't pining for Chris Duhon circa 2010.
     
  15. saintja2

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    Open or not, he hit those shots. I'm sorry there isn't a stat to compensate for the defense that was played on him. That doesn't make his 3-point shooting "dreadful". Sure there are lots of people who are better shooters than him, they just suck even harder in other areas.

    I guess I'm just tired of the hyperboles. If every other ****ing post on these boards seems to be the He sucks, cut his ass or He's awesome, let's suck his **** together -variety, it just gets tiresome.

    All I'm saying was that Rafer was a mediocre basketball player playing too big of a role and making a little bit too much money, but would have been a capable back-up on a good team. There are too many guys on a mission to declare him the worst player of all time, which he definitely wasn't.
     
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    So because he didn't want to make mistakes, that makes him a bad passer? With low turnovers and being able to get consistently dish out 6 assists per game, your statement makes no sense.
     
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    Well, I don't know about that. Rafer for Lowry is a no brainer, but the deal was actually Lowry+Cook. Now if we had gotten another serviceable piece other than Cook, than that would had been a great trade. But Cook ended up squatting on a roster spot, so...
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    If I had made enough money, I would tell my boss to get lost.
     
  19. engr_alex

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    i always felt that rafer had an attitude problem, specifically, him thinking he's an alphadog.

    i think last season's supposed locker room problems had something to do mostly with rafer than tmac.
     
  20. CriscoKidd

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    Uhm no on all points there.

    There were a lot of people b****ing at the time that Rafer was greater than Lowry ... and they were wrong.


    And Cook being the 15th man wasn't a big deal at all other than clutchfan whining. DM could have cut him anytime and the only reason he was kept on was for the offchance Morey needed his contract for salary matching for a trade.

    The Rafer trade was full of win for the Rockets. I'm glad the Magic weren't the ones who got their hands on Lowry.
     

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