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Rafer Admits He's A Goner

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MR. MEOWGI, Jul 19, 2007.

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  1. clutch citizen

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    2 reasons Rafer got the most minutes: JLIII and V-Span. You're right, the options were VERY thin....and it got even worse during the playoffs. All in all, Francis takes a load of pressure off T-Mac.
     
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    this is entirely consistent with Morey saying that the idea is to get the roster complelted and in place by APRIL. Morey's just going to be looking for ways to upgrade the roster throughout the year.

    We're going to need to be patient for some stuff to materialize.
     
  3. Ketchup&Mustard

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    I don't think Francis will overdribble and jack up bad shots like he used to. I'm sure there will be ocassions when he does, but he's got to know that junk won't fly anymore. He's the number three option now, and if he starts doin that stuff Mcgrady will put him in line. I think you're right about James though. We do need him to be that "instant energy" player, but he'll have to play more like a true point guard sometimes and get yao and other open players the ball.
     
  4. CrazyDave

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    I'm sure if we didn't have him working the perimeter, he'd have had more rebounds on the offensive end, at the very least. Just my two cents there, but for the record, 2.6 rpg.

    please. Yeah, Griz did so well after that trade. We improved, while they discovered new lows. Gay's youth would be the only thing that I see as a clear advantage. Stromile was a liability here, moving him was a good thing.

    Rudy Gay 2006-07 Statistics
    MPG PPG % 3p% RPG APG SPG TO BPG EFF
    27 10.8 .422 .364 4.50 1.3 .9 1.79 .9 +10.29

    Stromile 2006-2007 Stats
    MPG PPG % 3p% RPG APG SPG TO BPG EFF
    19 7.8 .465 .000 4.60 0.3 .6 1.28 1.1 +9.02

    Battier 06-07
    MPG PPG % 3p% RPG APG SPG TO PBG EFF
    38.9 10.3 .451 .421 2.6 2.1 1.7 1.14 .7 +12.43


    I personally think Battier was a good move. Hard to come by heart, work ethic, and skill like that in one package, not to mention right about now we're GLAD we have a vet with a positive attitude to balance out our bonzifrancisjames tude. Perhaps if we had someone to platoon Battier with that would be better, but I'd still make that trade again.
     
  5. CrazyDave

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    man, that looked better when I typed it. : (
     
  6. BobbyLI

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    also JL3 is a goner cuz NO hornets r interested in him and maybe luther
     
  7. daoshi

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    By the end of the year, everyone will cry out for the 20+ TOs, and ask where Rafer is.
     
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    I'd be cautious. Battier was a JVG player.
     
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    Rafer did a good job at handling the ball, he just can't shoot and can not finish, and that floater ughhhhhh that was UGLY!!!!
     
  10. acshen

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    This was also in the houston chronicle... talked about a "logjam" at PG and how he hoped the rockets could move him to a team where he could get some minutes...

    I wish him the best even though I didn't really like his shooting percentage
     
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    How adleman wants to play you don't need a play making,walk it down set up traditional point guard. If you look at the kings bibby was the point guy,but at the same time biiby was more of a scorer and not a real set up steve nash type of guy. Bobby jackson the same way and doug christie would play the point from time to time when adleman went big. Adleman's teams usually don't have the traditional point men all the way back to terry porter.



    The system really doesn't require a pro typical point man because the offense is ran through the big guy's.The one thing of point guard nature that the position requires is the guy being able to play pick and roll offensively and being able to read those type of situations whether to pass or shoot or move the ball to the other side.


    Now with what adleman was saying about brooks and how Adleman loves point guards who can hit the three and more importantly make those kind of plays by using screen and rolls,Brooks will get playing time this year. The rules fit his game and playing with T-mac and yao and everyone else he will be that much better and that much difficult to guard with the speed that he has. Brooks will be the real deal when the season starts.
     
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    I'd prefer getting Foster over Mobley. Landry and Hayes seem kind of redundant now, and Foster seems like a good fit into Adelman's system. I don't see the need for Mobley. I'd like to see T-Mac man the 2 primarily to give Battier & Wells time at the 3. Plus, Mobley's contract is bigger.
     
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    I like Foster's height advantage over Hayes, but I like Chuck's speed. I'm on the fence with this one.
    Say no to Mobley or to Posey.They can't fit with so many scorers.
     
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    Foster gets up and down the floor pretty well. He may not be as quick as Chuck, but overall I prefer Foster. I'd love Mobley if he wasn't making so much, but that's the only reason he's attainable for us. Rafer for Posey would be alright as long as Posey is signed to a reasonable shorter term deal.
     
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    As long as Yao Ming is on the team, there is a need for good post entry passing. You won't find that in Francis, James, and more than likely not in our sub-6ft phenom to be. Battier is the only remaining option from last year, and with a motion offense, he likely won't have that easy corner view that he did last year.

    I like what the team is doing, but there are still a lot of adjustments to make. I'm not quite sold that Rafer being traded is the best adjustment to make, not with three other PGs of the same variant...
     
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    say no to jeff foster! chuck will provide the same rebounding, wrecking ball low post presence and much more quickly. jeff foster and yao would be an impregnable interior defensive tandem and maybe block a million shots, but they would be wayyyy to slow to compete with any legit post threat.

    yao needs speed by his side, im hoping this is what landry can bring.
     
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    Maybe we'll just hold on to our roster and figure it out at Camp
     
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    I'm proposing that Morey sets up a ring around the court in the TC. Then we'd all get to see some good UFC action between Francis & James as they fight for possession of the ball.
     
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    Well, Jeff Foster is not really a shotblocker that patrols the lane. He averaged 0.4 blocks in 22 min for his career. Chuck Hayes averaged 0.3 blocks in 19 minutes for his career. They block at the same rate, when you adjust for minutes.

    I am ambivalent about Foster. He's taller and rebounds better, but he was injured alot in 2005 and 2006. I don't think he is faster than Chuck Hayes. You point to alot of positives about Chuck, that I love and appreciate.
     
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    The one thing I do like is Foster's ability to play the backup C role also. When Yao is out, we bring Foster in at C and Scola at PF. Foster would make up for Scola's defensive and rebounding deficiencies. That's much better than Hayes at C. It would free up a roster spot to get Foster, since we wouldn't need both Mutumbo and Hayes on the roster.
     

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