Racist Baseball Exec to Get the Axe

Originally posted by nyquil82

ok, i understand your argument much more here and its clear where we differ in opinions, which is fine. I believe that him getting fired for those racially tainted remarks is justified, there is simply a zero-tolerance when it comes to being a worker in a professional environment. He was fired, not just for what he did, but to show to the rest of the country that that kind of behavior is unacceptable.

<b>I believe that I said this exact thing right from the get-go. BTW, this event did not take place at work but took place after hours in a bar. Why did this "event" even see the light of day?</b>

some may argue that shaq can do it and get away with it, well i wish he didnt, but the truth is, he can't be replaced, the lakers make a loss when he is gone. with shaq, it doesnt have to do with him being a minority, although he socially gets a little extra padding. The dodgers on the other hand have the liberty to cut those that disrupt, hurt or blemish the organization, I believe his comments are enough to rationalize his firing. There are many other guys and girls who can take that position and do a just as good job. having a job is a priviledge, not a right, if you mess up, the company has a right to take it away and replace you with someone better.

<b>So, some animals are more equal than other animals.</b>

 

giddyup, do you really think racist behavior should be swept under the table? It may not have been an official meeting, but there were numerous colleagues around.

 

Yes, like John Rocker, Kerry Collins, Bill Romanowski. We've already been down this road.

 

So you are not going to post the words to the routine? Why not? What have you to hide? Oh, nothing but racial stereotyping and broad based generalizations. Shaq has a routine too. So does Fuzzy Zoeller. Pretty funny stuff.

 

Did I say sweep it under the table? I said it wasn't national news (which it has become). I said that the guy should not lose his job over something like this (which he might).

In your "experience" have you ever heard someone say something like what Singer said? Did it make the news? Did someone lose their job?

If not, how many conversations similar in subject matter have taken place in the US over the past 20 years? How many had this notoriety or this weightiness (in terms of Singer's future)?

I don't think it is newsworthy except that it is made out to be sensational. It is pathetic. Apparently Singer has no history of this kind of behavior. He has apologized. Seemingly he has learned his lesson yet "some" are still calling for his termination.

Isn't it better to have a redeemed sinner in the fold than to cast a sinner to the curb so heartlessly? Something to be learned there, I'd say.

 

Those aren't the animals to whom I was referring. I was referring to those who got exceptional treatment.

 

Yes. No, but of course, I've never worked in a high profile company like MLB among high profile workers like an Assistant GM.

It's easy to apologize when you're called out on it. Would he have apologized had Ng not said a word? I doubt it.

 

Like who?

 

I didn't say it shouldn't be dealt with; I only said it wasn't worthy of national news and it wasn't deserving of the extreme consequence being considered for Singer. All that could have happened without national media attention.

 

You know Shaq, who did what he did with absolutely no one condemning him or no one talking about it for weeks on end.

 

Shaq. He mocked Yao publicly on camera for all the world to see. There was no institutional pressure on Shaq for his insensitive mugging while the little man (Singer) faces the loss of his career for a quiet little clumsy minute in a bar after hours.

 

You understand that's probably impossible. It's not like the MLB is some obscure company that no one ever covers.

 

And so did Kerry Collins, Bill Romanowski, and John Rocker, they all kept their jobs after making insulting comments. Add Jeremy Shockey to the list. No one's going to get rid of an athlete.

 

Originally posted by Oski2005

Do a search of news on google. The idiocy occured on the 11th, the first time a story shows up is on the 15th, the day Singer apologized. There was no big breaking story saying that he just happened to disparage a collegue because she was Asian.

<b>I didn't say there was. I just said it made the national news when it was not that important of a story.</b>


giddy, you sure seem bent on demonizing Ng and glossing over the behavior of Singer. Is that she's too sensitive in your eyes for not just laughing off some insulting remarks. And these people weren't at "just some bar" on off time. There is no off time, execs sit around and talk business the whole time they are at these meetings.

<b>I didn't demonize anyone particularly. I criticized whoever took their offense at this little event and made a news story out of it. Sounds like Ng just wanted it to go away.</b>

 

So we are back to where we began: some are more equal than others. I seriously object to the hypocrisy of a system that takes away the job of a lesser man (Asst. GM) for a lesser offense while overlooking the greater offense of a greater man (athlete).

 

Did all these people make *racial* comments? I don't recall Collins, Romo or Shockey making racial comments.

 

Collins had a bad reputation in the Panthers' locker room. I don't believe that he was ever quoted saying something inappropriate, but to a degree he was mistrusted by some of his teammates. And he also had a bit of a struggle with alcohol abuse so they let him go.

 

Kerry Collins used the N word in the locker room in Carolina. Romo said he used performancing enhancing drugs to keep up with the black players. I'm referring to Shockey's homo remark.

The fact that you don't remember the Collins incident proves that there's no media double standard.

 

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