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Racism or Good business?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Fatty FatBastard, Oct 26, 2009.

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Racist or not?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    31.3%
  1. juicystream

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    One small hotel in Alabama. It think it was called the Eagle Inn. Norman Bates kind of hotel. 100% positive, there were zero hispanic people.

    At the Jekyll Island Club, I didn't notice a single Hispanic person.

    Didn't see one at the Stone Mountain Inn.

    Don't recall seeing them at the Peachtree Westin, but I think they probably were there.

    The national chains always seem to have Hispanic cleaning ladies, but not a lot of local hotels where there is almost no hispanic population.
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    does it make your stay there better?
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    1. My post was a joke which you missed.

    2. Although a joke, your info is so off I have to correct it. Everyone had to take some spanish (or french) in my high school to graduate. in order to avoid it in college I had to take 3 semesters. So I guess I CHOSE to take it but not really since going to high school is a law and at high school you have to take spanish. They CHOSE to work there, it is not a law.

    your counter to even my joke argument is so flawed you should just give up.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    For me it would be nice to be able to communicate with the house keeping staff. Sure a call down to the front desk usually (90% of the time) takes care of small issues like extra towels everyday or late turndowns, but putting 10 bucks in someone's hand and explaining it in person makes it always happen.

    This is impossible when they cannot speak english. Which is basically the norm these days. Hotel workers pay has been frozen for years now, illegal immigration for the loss.
     
  5. juicystream

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    No, I don't think it has an effect. I can say that I've stayed in some crappy hotels, but never felt I've had bad service. I think thats a combination of luck and staying at very nice hotels most of the time. I certainly didn't care if they spoke Spanish in the owner's presence, or what the hell the employee's names were.

    Marco can carry my luggage to my room anytime, but no way I'd ever let a guy named Falcon take it up.
     
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  6. vlaurelio

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    but who said the employees in the OP didn't know how to speak english?
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    I would be much less likely to try to talk to the employees if I heard them speaking spanish. Would not want to risk that they cannot speak english and have an embarrassing situation. Probably why they want them to speak only english.
     
  8. juicystream

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    It mentioned specifically so they couldn't talk about him in front of his face without him knowing what they were saying. He felt they were talking about him anytime they spoke in Spanish because they hated his style. They weren't banned from speaking Spanish, just banned from doing it around him.
     
  9. vlaurelio

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    so you're assuming anyone who you hear speaking a foreign language cannot speak english.. alot of poeple are bilingual you know. its not that hard..
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    I am bilingual also. I'm just telling you people's behaviors. If you disagree that pattern is true that is fine.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    I disagree and I think you just made it up. You don't fit that behavior yourself. If there are people who think that way then they are in the minority and not open minded.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    Just because they chose to work their doesn't mean they owner can do whatever he wants to the employees. Under most states labor laws a business cannot discriminate in its hiring which would include things such as race, religion and creed. Forcing someone to change their name as a condition of employment would probably qualify as discrimination. Firing someone for not doing so would also.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    I didn't make it up. I do it all the time. If they are speaking spanish I don't risk that they can also speak english, even more so if they are housekeeping staff.
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    I am not saying anything against that. I just want to point out that FB's weaksauce argument that my choice to go to school was pathetic and the opposite was actually true.
     
  15. vlaurelio

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    Even you yourself are bilingual, you don't expect people who speak spanish know how to speak english even they are working in a business establishment in the US which is open to the public. I don't think alot of people are that close minded.
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    Personal experience of being burned. Take the % of them that cannot speak english, add the number that are too embarassed with poor english to respond, add the number that don't want to do extra work so pretend to not hear or not understand. That is a large percentage.

    Then factor in the risk that they can speak some english but not as much as they let on and bad things happen.

    How much experience do you have with hotel housekeeping staff? A very low % speak english.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    Going to school isn't the issue. You chose Spanish class and part of that is learning about another culture. Using names common to that culture makes sense and is useful. It is far from oppressive.

    Working is a matter of survival, and they didn't choose to work there under those conditions which are tactics used by conquering oppressors.

    The weak sauce pathetic part was you trying to compare what happened in Korea under Japanese oppression to an elective in high school. Or even just the situation in a hotel job to your high school elective.

    Don't get your panties in a wad just because your argumenrt is poor analogy.
     
  18. juicystream

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    I know this wasn't really serious, but you would think if he refused to answer to anything other then his own name, the school wouldn't expel him. I do think it is funny that Spanish classes used Spanish names. We got to keep our names in Latin class.
     
  19. vlaurelio

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    if you own/manage a US business which caters to English speaking clientele/customers, won't you require your employees to know how to speak english?
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    It is not an elective. You needed it to graduate.

    The thing you don't understand was mine was a joke. Obviously I don't think my teach was mean. He is not legally changing their names, he is asking them to play a character at work.
     

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