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Racism or Good business?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Fatty FatBastard, Oct 26, 2009.

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Racist or not?

  1. Yes

    44 vote(s)
    68.8%
  2. No

    20 vote(s)
    31.3%
  1. rhino17

    rhino17 Member

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    I would say no if he was just making them speak English, I don't see any problem with that, but the name changing thing would definitely fall under racism
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    sorry, never heard of you before.
     
  3. Rocket River

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    I hear this alot

    HE'S NOT RACIST . . just a jackass, ignorant, crazy, blah blah blah
    ANYTHING but the 'R WORD'!

    Rocket River
     
  4. Fatty FatBastard

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    I understand the uproar, but again, we need to look to society sees this as an issue when they go out. I mean, it isn't like folks scream "you racist!" and then go with several friends to an hispanic bar. And, yes, I've been to every bar imaginable. Point is, the one thing I've noticed when I went was that hispanic, black, asian, white, we all tend to want to be in "like" environment.

    Again, we're still a ways away from Star Trek's "uniformity" and until democrats understand their hypocrisy (as in, at least I get it) we aren't moving forward.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    Wow. You are going to murder me in this debate.
     
  6. Fatty FatBastard

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    Lol. Glad to see you're still game.

    I've no problem with grabbing a drink or two beforehand to discuss civility, etc.
     
  7. rhino17

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    taking time out of your day to debate someone from an online forum seems like a complete waste of time to me personally
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    There will be no civility.
     
  9. Malcolm

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    On a serious note how may of you guys have been in another country for a minimum of a year. You don't speak the language of the country of origin you are located but the people of that country have the ability to speak the language you know. I say this because I have been in this situation before. Even though my work really communicated less with this country's citizens less than anyone still I was on their country ground. I just question why we Americans feel that we should degrade someone and threaten them because they have the ability to speak another language. Why is it you feel so threaten that you feel that someone is talking about you. So what why is that important that they are talking about you? That just means you have issues yourself that you need to deal with about you self esteem.
     
  10. rhino17

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  11. Dairy Ashford

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    In New Mexico, of all places, people should be able or willing to pronounce and undersand Spanish or Hispanic names. Hell, no reason anyone in this country should be unfamiliar or uncomfortable with Latino names. And one of the reasons we have civil rights legislation and a permanent protest movement is that racism, directly or indirectly, has always been "good business."
     
  12. jo mama

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    i didnt say he is not a racist - i said i wouldnt call him one based on this. its very insulting to ask someone to change their name, but again i dont think you can just make the blanket statement that he is a racist b/c of this. i would call him a bad businessman before i called him a racist.

    he is running a private business and he has a right to run it how he wants. the free market will determine whether or not he is 'racist'. if the way he runs his business is that much of an issue he will not be very successful. personally, i wouldnt want to work for him or stay in his hotel if that is the way he treats people, but again, its his right to do so.

    ive been to taos and i would say the vast majority of its citizens are hispanic w/ many of the rest being 'power crystal' type, volvo-driving aging hippies - so he is just going to end up alienating himself from the community. but again, its a free country and its his business - if he wants to run it like a jerk than he will suffer the consequences of it.
     
  13. vlaurelio

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    deciding which bar to go to <> deciding how to run a business
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Is being a racist illegal?

    What if he just wants to run the hotel his way, since he bought it?

    I do think making people change their names is a bit much...and his management style sucks balls.....

    But, asking them to speak English is not that big of a deal if you ask me.

    DD
     
  15. Deji McGever

    Deji McGever יליד טקסני

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    It's his hotel and he can do what he wants, I guess. I think what he's doing makes little business sense and his employees would likely win a suit against him. He's also going to feel the brunt of a lot of dudes like LULAC.

    Maybe if the employees had difficult to pronounce names from Sub-Saharan Africa or East Asia I might be more sympathetic...but seriously man, Spanish names? We are talking about the American Southwest.

    With this kind of reasoning we'd be seeing the Saint Anthony Spurs play the The Angeles Lakers.


    Is he racist? This sentence bothered me the most.
    I've lived in Texas 23 years and never once met a Spaniard. I met plenty of Spanish speaking people who were born there, and many Mexicans and Central Americans, but I can't recall ever meeting a Spaniard until I moved to LA. And she was Basque. Her name was a lot harder to pronounce than "Martin."

    When people say "Spanish" when they really mean Hispanic or Mexican or Latino it reminds me of the uncomfortable way LBJ said "Negro."

    I get just as irritated when people in the Middle East call me "English." You would too.
     
  16. Mulder

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    I just felt it move.

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  17. FranchiseBlade

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    RThe name chanfginfg fgoes bveyond racism and inrto whart is done when conquerinfg nartions wanrt to desrtroy a culrture and idenrtirty of a people.

    When the Japanese occupied Korea they made everyone take a Japanese name, and all children born had to have a JApanese name. They were trying to erase Korean culture. It was a very hurtful thing for the people of Korea during that time.
     
  18. Fatty FatBastard

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    I agree.


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  19. FranchiseBlade

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    I can't see the video. I'll have to wait until I'm on a different computer.
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    Just a "small town on the Texas/US border"
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