Sherrod was a bureaucrat not a politician. She got recklessly sacrificed by politicians in their effort to save face that didn't need saving. This thing was not that highly edited. Wasn't it just a continuous snippet of a 45-minute speech? Industrial Light and Magic was not involved. It was taken out of context... which is the phenomena that Breitbart says he was attempting to demonstrate. Breitbart's motives were political not work-related. As I've said 3 or 4 times, it was reckless but that's the way that game is played. I'm not. I've called her glorious and him reckless but that doesn't make her a Saint or him a Devil. Have your opinion. That's not a fact. Her own words revealed both her failing and her triumph. Let's not act like there was no failing. I have no doubt about either of those things and I've made that abundantly clear. I just reported what he said 3 (?) days ago on a local radio station when this story was being made out to be an attack on Sherrod. In fact, it was meant to show a flawed process that happens all the time in the media: distortion and mis-representation. Bye. I'm going swimming with my kids.
Damnit man, I said she was close to Glory. I'm just not ignoring that she, for however a brief time, succumbed to her own racism. I applauded her for seeing through and fighting through that. In my opinion, that is the BEST we can all hope for.
That's not how the game is played except by Breitbart. No one else is taking speeches meant to be anti-racist and editing them to appear racist. Only one side is playing the game that way. Showing racist tea baggers and not showing all the non-racist ones isn't the same thing. Especially when the main stream media showed the racist tea baggers and then also showed about them getting rid of a racist leader. It also announced the tea party groups that are getting together to combat racism. Sherrod did not, in the end, do less for the white farmer than she would have for anyone else. She did not act in a racist way. She did nothing racist. Believing Republicans are racist for opposition to health care reform isn't racist in itself. It may be wrong, but that doesn't make it racist. Sherrod did NOTHING racist. You say you are only trying to provide balance. Why does there need to be balance to one side and one side only editing a tape to make it appear that the woman embodied racism, when that was the opposite of what she did? What balance is needed? I'm not talking about whether she lost her job or not. I'm just talking about the initial act of smearing an innocent woman. Why do you feel a need to balance that?
but heaven forbid someone call rush limbaugh a racist and giddyup will freak out! drug-addicted fat white dudes with their own radio shows deserve protection. this black woman does not.
Still here-- waiting for 4 little girls to get themselves into swimsuits and ready for swimming... You presume that those teabaggers are racist. Might they be plants? Some of those signs that you see as racist others don't incriminate in kind. I'm sure that some are but teapartiers have had mud slung on them far longer, wider and deeper than Mrs. Sherrod. Sherrod did something racist-- by her own admission. She fought back. Good for her and all the world. The balance I seek is to balance out the vitriolic critics who over-react to everything. I'm not balancing Sherrod, I'm counter-balancing you guys here. Breitbart wanted to show a process and the fact that you all convict him of being an "asshat" proves his point.
I never freak out. I defend Rush when I think he needs defending. I didn't defend his last diatribe. That was stupid and ugly. I forget what it was even about frankly. I read the thread and was mentioned twice as a rescuer before I chimed in with my disapproval. Did that disappoint you? :grin:
please provide any shred of proof that these are plants. anything. one iota. also, how many tea partiers lost their job for being labeled as a racist, only to be the exact opposite? for that matter, how many lost their jobs after comparing our president to mass murderers like hitler or lenin? and up yours for thinking her losing her job is justified what you don't understand is that you're hurting your side more than helping by refusing to acknowledge that breitbart editing a video to make someone look like the exact opposite of what she was preaching is a completely dick move. yes, it proves he is an asshat. just like you.
She thought in racist ways, but Sherrod did not do anything racist. She corrected herself. Breitbart only showed that he edited a tape of a woman who overcame racism, and did the right thing to make it appear as if she was a racist. That's all he showed. He didn't show anything else at all. So is your defense of Breitbart's methods above the answer to the question I've repeatedly asked? Is it OK for someone to doctor a tape that was meant to illustrate a good and anti-racist thing to make that person appear to be an active racist, and then release it to the news? I'm not talking about Sherrod losing her job or anyone else's rush to judgment based on that tape. But doing that to a tape and a good person... is that OK with you? If have any evidence to show that speakers like Tom Tancredo who gave a racist speech at the tea party convention were plants, please provide it. If have any other evidence besides the one teacher who wanted to be a plant at tea party functions please provide it. I've said all along not all tea baggers are racist. However, they have racists in their groups, and up until recently have done little to counter act that. They've recently taken steps to do that, and I've given them credit for it. The mainstream media which you and Breitbart are lampooning here have also reported the fact of the tea party taking these actions. Even in all their reporting the mainstream media never once took an anti-racist tea party sign, and changed it to say something racist. Only one person in the fray has done that. His name is Breitbart. So by doing something that no other entity has done, he doesn't hold a mirror up and reflect anything, but his own ugly, hate-filled image. It's odd that you look into the mirror and see something that isn't there. Anytime you'd like to answer my question though, feel free. Otherwise I guess I'll just take your defense of Breitbart as your answer.
giddy: if breitbart edited that tape, he was more then reckless. The explanation you are relaying here is nonsense -- if he wanted to show that selective editing can distort the truth -- he'd have to actually reveal the truth to demonstrate his point. He didn't. Call him out. He's busted here. His only possible defense is that he did not edit the tape, and was unaware of how deceptive it was...in which case he was reckless and he should simply apologize and find a new clip to be outraged over. He was an asshat. Perhaps the point he's now pushing is valid -- but it's a huge stretch to say that was his original intent. And in this discussion, he's lost all credibility.
one more thing: if his point was about selective editing distorting the truth and how it relates to the Teaparty -- what's all this about her actually acting in a racist way? He was showing that selective editing distorts the truth, but the truth was consistent with what the selective editing purported to show? I'm not following....
Doesn't matter, releasing to the media is still considered libel and is criminal if it meets all the qualifications of libel - and this one clearly does. As I stated, the libel was not in what Sherrod said...it's in the text overlay that Breitbart put on the video which has clearly been shown to be false now. He's in big trouble as legal scholars are saying this is a case of libel.
Go back and watch the video - the narrative text at the beginning is false - that make the creator and publisher of the video guilty of libel as it clearly resulted in defamation of sharrod.
Here's what the text says: "Ms. Sherrod admits that in her federally appointed position, overseeing over a billion dollars....She discriminates against people based on their race." She made no such admission as the events she described occurred decades before she was in a federally appointed position. It's clearly a false statement and clearly maliciously (intentionally) done with the knowledge that it would wrongly defame the person. Whoever created the video - and put that text overlay on the opening seconds, has commited a civil crime.
I agree so why were you arguing that she resigned as though this was somehow voluntary? In that case then why do you get upset in regard to when Rush quotes that seem to show racism on his parts are brought up? If that's the way the game is played why don't you condemn Breitbart as much as you do those who bring up Rush quotes? True neither are saint or devil and my view is that he is an asshat and I would say that view is supported by his callous disregard to any consequence to Sherrod by releasing this misleading edited video. And again you are talking about Sherrod's failing, even while you acknowledge her triumph. How is admitting to having racist feelings but overcoming them a failure? Even though the facts point out that she overcame those feelings you are still looking at her as though she is a closet racist. At the sametime though you continue to just say you are just reporting what Breitbart says. I will grant you that you say it is reckless yet you still defend it as being "how the game is played." You are treating the person here who is the victim with skepticism while you defend the instigator. Have fun swimming.
