No. There is no rule in a democracy that we all have to treat every person we meet the same. In the United States, everyone has to be treated the same by the laws, but there are no such rules for individual interaction. The closest we come to that is laws against discrimination by businesses. Under your idea, we would have to all be bisexual or asexual, as if we tried to have sex with one person, we would have to try to have sex with every person. No, instead we get to regulate our own behavior on a number of factors. If one person is willing to pay us $10 to wait on them, and another is only willing to pay $5, the person paying ten can be given better service. The solution to this problem is not going to happen overnight. It will take a change in the perceived tipping habits of black people. The way to accomplish that is for black people to tip at the same rate as other people. Once that happens, any waiter that either works for a long time under those conditions, or first becomes a waiter under those conditions will not think of black people as bad tippers, and they will receive the same service as any other average tipping group. This isn't rocket science people, nor is it based on some hatred of black people. To illustrate the point, try to think of baseball. Pitchers are traditionally light hitting. Not all pitchers in the history of baseball have been poor hitters (see Ruth, George Herman) but the perception of pitchers is that they are not going to hurt you with the bat. Now, if you are facing a pitcher for the first time, you are probably going to go right after him. If that particular pitcher consistently performs with the bat, he will start to be pitched like an everyday player, but it will not change the perception of pitchers in general. If all or most of the pitchers started hitting like everyday players, they will come to be pitched to like everyday players. Teams don't have some hatred or bias against pitchers, it is based solely on results.
Some maybe, but they are not getting poor service because they are a member of a group that is perceived to be bad tippers.
The problem with this, however, is that you're suggesting that black people have to pay the same amount for worse service. It would be one thing if they got equal service, but you're basically saying that black people need to pay more for their food to overcome a waiter's discrimination.
NewYorker's post that I was referring to had nothing to do with the specific incident in the first post.
That is true, but the alternative is that black people can continue to be bad tippers on average and they can continue to receive worse service for as long as we operate under the current tipping system. And that is based on the assumption that black people are on average worse tippers because they receive worse service, which the server in the article who tried to disprove the common wisdom found not to be the case.
My point is. . you said the solution is for black Folx to tip at the same rate as others perhaps . . . we do . . . we tip the same as others do for the same level of service Since on average black folx get crappier service because of this perception they tip less on average I looked at one of the links. . they guy interviewed like 83 Black Folx and made a thesis out of it. . . It is one of the Frustrations of being a Black American one of life's little indignities that you learn to live with Rocket River
When I get a haircut, I prefer the stylist not be Asian. I live in a predominately white city and I still occasionally get an Asian stylist like I was back in Houston. I don't turn them down but I think f***! in my head. I think it's because I'm scarred from all the bad haircuts and lack of Engrish from stylists growing up. Am I racist? I also don't want dudes cutting my hair. Am I sexist?
Not tip what others would tip for the same level of service necessarily, but have the same average tip as the others regardless of service. If the root cause of the poorer service is lower tips on average, then the solution is higher tips on average. Everything else is meaningless. That of course assumes that the goal is to receive the same service as other groups that are on average better tippers. If the goal is to have one more thing to b**** about and blame on racism, then the status quo will do just fine.
I find the qwhole thing silly.l This notion that deciding to treat someone as a second class citizen in a restaurant simply because of their color and then not calling that racism is just stupid. As for the whole "most blacks dont tip well" angle, please give me a break. I'm sure employers say the same thing about how most blacks don't have a proper education, so it's ok to not even bother giving them an interview.
This goes to the whole whole gay rights movement versus the civil rights movement. if there was a study that gays tip less than straight people, they would still get the same service at a restaurant, whereas a black customer obviously suffers from this type of study. Yeah I said it
You have a WHITE point of view. You despise the fact that black people have the race card and you want to deny them that. Go on an admit it, that's what all white-minded people want. You appeal on ethical and logical grounds, like black people should all be ethical and logical. My question to you is: why aren't you more like black people and complain about unfair treatment? I think you are delusional if you don't.
Trust me, if for some reason black people were known to tip 50% of the bill waiters would be fighting each other to wait on them.
It does a lot more than you might realize. But you really have to understand race on a much deeper level than this silly thread to know what it actually does for black people.
