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[Racism] African Americans in Restaurants

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SirCharlesFan, Jun 22, 2007.

  1. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    Nobody said they wont get served. They might not get the same level of service. And if you have experience with getting bad tips from a certain group of people whether it be age, skin color etc. it is human nature to focus more on the groups that you know you have a better CHANCE at getting a better tip. The waiters know they can be wrong. When I waited I have assumed that the tip amount of kinds of people. Many times I thought this guy would give a lot and this guy would not give. Many times I was wrong. You never really know, but you can have an educated idea. It's hard to stick to your ideals when you work and sweat for nothing. When it happens to you repeatedly you become leery. I can't blame people for that.
     
  2. Lil Pun

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    See I don't think it's past racism, that probably has something to do with it but I figure it's more of a knowledge of etiquette. The only reason I know how to and do tip properly is because I took an etiquette class when I was 18. Before that I had no idea of many of the proper things you are supposed to do when dining outside the home. I think many people suffer from that as well. My mother, who is white, suffered from it until I taught her the correct way to do it. I even taught her a little trick to calculate it. Maybe restaurants should offer tips at the table on how proper tipping is the right thing to do and how many servers depend on this as a form of important income. Even the study you posted suggests knowledge of tipping is lacking and restaurants should step up and educate.
     
  3. MR. MEOWGI

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    Sounds good to me.
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    OK, so why wouldn't it be the waiters fault then? I'm black, I tip at least 20% every time for good service. Let's say me and my black party come in to a restaurant dressed nicely, acting orderly, etc. A white party dressed and acting them same follows us in. The waiter automatically assumes because I am black that I will tip less. I notice the service he gives to the white patrons that followed me in and my service is mediocre in comparison. Should I be compelled to tip him 20% even though he provided me with less service?

    I have had this actually happen before on a number of occasions.
     
  5. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    I don't know. I see both sides to that. I could see tipping well to prove a point and combating the beliefs, kind of a long term investment. But I also understand not tipping well based on the actual service. I wouldn't really blame people either way.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    So... what do Caucasians tip for mediocre service? For bad service?
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    I always tip at least 20% unless the service was hideous. And if I have a buzz going I usually end up tipping more. I'm bad about that. Oh well.
     
  8. Lil Pun

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    You tell me.
     
  9. rimbaud

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    Okie dokie then. I can't even remember the last time I ate baloney. Have I ever? Probably but if I did it was only once or twice.
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    far be it from me to criticize someone's spelling but

    My bologna has a first name, it's O-S-C-A-R
    My bologna has a second name, it's M-A-Y-E-R
    Oh, I love to eat it every day, and if you ask me why, I'll say,
    "'Cause Oscar Mayer has a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A."
     
  11. Batman Jones

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    By your logic, racial profiling doesn't happen because people are black; it happens because blacks commit more crimes. You are advocating applying a standard to individuals based on their race. That is the textbook definition of racial stereotyping. Acting on it, by giving preference to a customer of another race, is the textbook definition of racial discrimination. I really don't know why it sticks in your craw to admit this when every post you've made in this thread has been an admission of it.
     
  12. rimbaud

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    Surprisingly, "baloney" is acceptable these days as an original corruption of "bologna".
     
  13. mc mark

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    that's bull on ya
     
  14. Lil Pun

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    Oh, so now you're calling us crackers...

    :rolleyes:
     
  16. MR. MEOWGI

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    I'm advocating applying a standard? Where do you get that from? Waiters are giving preference to the tipping practices of another race, not the race itself. It is not the same thing. What I am saying is that it is understandable and not inherently racist.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    No I'm not. And when I've tried going elsewhere, they mess up. I even tried Visible Changes for $30 and the cut was not as good. But it's one Asian lady in particular, maybe she's just good.
     
  18. Batman Jones

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    You are defending giving preferential treatment to a member of one race due to the actions of members of another race. That is racial profiling and I disagree with you that it's not racist.
     
  19. Lil Pun

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    Oh, I thought those were Ritz.
     
  20. what

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    Oh right. I forgot the intelligentsia do not recognize slang words. Get out the dictionary again, Rimmy. Baloney means nonsense, it doesn't mean food. Just like your last post was, nonsense.
     

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