[Racine Journal Times] Rumor: Landry to Milwaukee for Villanueva?

again ...it seems like they might be grooming Dorsey to fit the bill. Only folks on the inside could answer that question.

 

I think Millsap is more crafty on offense...i can't see Landry getting close to 20 pts consistently off of putbacks, open layups and 15 footers. 15 maybe, but Millsap was putting up 20+, and that was even without Boozer and Deron to attract the D. Can you see Landry doing that without Yao, tmac or Ron? If he has the ball, with the D playing him straight up, 10 to 15 times a game, what can he do? He's not great at shootinghis J with his man on him, usually he catches and shoots or he shoots if his man won't come out, but without star in the game the D WILL step up and guard him. In the low post he usually has his man beat because they're running to catch up to him after doubling Yao/tracy, so Landry just has to beat them to the hoop, which is fairly easy for him given his explosiveness...but if the D is set on him? He can only pump fake and hope the man bites, or throw up a hook. That's not going to work for a whole game.

 

TMAC 08-09 42.3%.

Let's just cut the crap, shall we?

 

It's not becuase of the stats, but the something not in the stats

Absolutely NO

 

Do it. We could use the length.

When Yao is on the bench it's pretty unacceptable to have to go with a mix of Luis Scola (6'9), Carl Landry (6'9) and Chuck Hayes (6'6) at Forward and Center. Bringing in Charlie Villanueva (6'11), Chris Mihm (7'0) and Dikembe Mutombo (7'2) should help us improve. Moving Carl Landry is least damaging to our chemistry... Luis and Chuck are key in those regards.

Villanueva can stretch the defense with his range... sure he's not gonna make three's at a high clip, but when CV floats out towards the perimeter, defenders have to follow whereas with Landry and Hayes, the defender will lay off and let them take the jumper. We need to improve spacing if we want more options on offense. In a reserve role, CV, Deke and Mihm can be ultra effective on the Rockets.

 

Crap... I'm reading all over the internet like this is definitely going to happen.

 

any respectable sites?

 

Villanueva is not that great of scorer when compared to Landry. last season CV averaged 11 fg attempts per game and 12 per game this season vs. Carl, who averaged 5 last season and 6 this season per game. 12 fg attempts might even be Carl's high in this area. If Carl shot this many times per game, he would outscore CV easy.

and for everyone who talks all the time on "what Carl can't do" offensively...how would you even know? this team has major stars on it. when is the last time you have seen a play run for Carl...not often. he hasn't gotten the chance to do much one-on-one because he hasn't had to. make this trade and i'm sure he'll show what he can do when he starts for the Bucks.

 

Looking at their hot spots for both this season and last, it seems that Landry is the better mid-range shooter and inside finisher. Millsap may have a slight advantage at putting the ball on the floor and creating his own shot but I don't think the difference is that significant. Landry is outstanding at finding a way to get a shot up in traffic. I also don't believe that Millsap is any better than Landry at shooting with a man in his face. I'll keep watching both of them and reassess this. I think Landry is simply a better shooter and finisher. You talk about defenses focusing on McGrady, Yao and Ron and attribute Landry's success to that. First of all, Landry doesn't always play with all those guys. Secondly, I think playing with those guys actually brings his numbers down because he gets less touches. Millsap also plays on a pretty good team when they are at full health (which has been the vast majority of the time that Millsap has played). The Jazz arguably have more offensive weapons than us. I understand that he has been playing extremely well with Boozer and Okur missing time but I am not convinced that Landry couldn't do the same. Landry may be even better when Yao is not on the court. The paint opens up and he can get to the rim more easily. Landry really started to go off last season when Yao went down. He was a huge part of that 22-game streak and the strong second half finish, tearing it up off the bench. The Jazz also execute their offense much better than the Rockets. That has to benefit Millsap.

I basically see Landry and Millsap as equal players. They are the same size and both extremely athletic. Millsap may have better low post moves but Landry is a better shooter that is even better at finishing under the basket.

 

everyone thought it was going to happen, but the later this deal isnt finalized the more likely it wont happen.

 

Be hard to see this go:



DD

 

Rox need height bad. In my opinion they will never beat the Celtics cus they are too short. Thats if the Rox were to make it to the finals. Landry has lost that explosiveness from last year, he has gotten blocked countless of times. I also don't think CV's D can be any worse than Landry's.

 

that hasn't been there this year

 

why not Trade head for Lue, then trade Lue for Mihm..
I think this will make sense.

 

If it's all over the internet, it's probably not going to happen. I may not be a Moneyball fan, but I like the way he operates in secret until a deal is done.

 

He looked great against New Orleans....

DD

 

Could you post any links...?

 

I've only seen it on two, where have you been seeing it?

 

Yea, me too. I've seen it on the Racine Journal Times and Rotoworld. (Rotoworld probably got it from the Racine Journal Times, though)

 

The Celtics starting 5 doesn't come close to measuring up to ours.


Rondo - 6'1
Allen - 6'5
Pierce - 6'7
Perkins - 6'10
Garnett - 6'11


Alston - 6'2
McGrady - 6'8
Batter - 6'8
Scola - 6'10 (his 6'9 listing is w/out shoes, most NBA players' listed heights are w/ shoes)
Yao - 7'6


Sure, they had old PJ Brown coming off the bench last season and he was key for them in some playoff games but other than that they had undersized bigs like Big Baby and Leon Powe. If that's all it takes, we can find a veteran backup like Brown. And it's not like they are struggling this season without PJ. They had the best 29 game start in NBA history.

The problem isn't just length, although that is something we should address. Allen is a far better shooter than anybody on the Rockets other than Barry, who is an aging reserve. Pierce is far more durable than McGrady and is fearless going to the basket. He's among the league leaders in FTA year in and year out. Garnett and Perkins are far more athletic than Yao and Scola and Garnett is one of the best frontcourt defensive players in the league. I know Perkins is no special athlete, it's just that Yao and Scola are so extremely unathletic that everybody looks like a good athlete compared to them.

I think the Rockets problem is they have two offensive scrubs in their starting 5 (Alston, Battier) and incredibly low athleticism among that group. Height and length is not a problem with our starters. The problem with the starters is a lack of athleticism and two offensive zeros. Conversely, athleticism is not a problem with our reserves while length is, specifically with our frontcourt reserves. That could be fixed with one move like the one the Celtics made last season to get PJ.