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Racial Bias in both White and Black kids against black kids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Oct 25, 2015.

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  1. okierock

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    Let's go ahead and assume the worst. All kids, black and white are racist against blacks.

    Why are they racist, and what should we do about it?
     
  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Awareness is half the battle. If everyone understands what is going on, they can be aware not to reinforce it and start changing it. People need to start taking action.

    The other half is providing the mentorship and support these kids are not getting so they can focus on doing well in school. The cost savings to the taxpayer would be enormous.

    There are so many people who can serve as mentors to these kids and help them build their self-esteem so they can believe in a better pathway and that lottery tickets, sports, music, and crime are not the only viable means out of poverty.

    But if no one thinks there is a problem, nothing will be done.
     
  3. dback816

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    Black people have a monopoly on brown skins now too?
     
  4. okierock

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    I'm white and I have brown skin?

    I really haven't ever seen a "black" person if you are discussing skin color but I'm not really sure what you are discussing.
     
  5. cml750

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    Sweet Lou, I have grown weary of this with you. If you can't see this is a cultural issue then there is no hope for you. The fix has to come from within the black community. Is racism completely gone??? No but it is not the primary driver against black success. Single parent households driven by government handouts have done more to hurt black people than the KKK could ever dream to do. Until blacks wake up and take advantage of the opportunities that are available to them (and all Americans for that matter) they will not rise above where they are as a group. Playing the victim status has grown old. Black leaders need to look to themselves to become examples of success instead of being cheerleaders of the poor pitiful victim status.
     
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    It might be a cultural issue. But the culture that has the issue is the one that teaches children that black culture doesn't face any different issues that white culture, and that there aren't biases against them that must be overcome.

    The culture that could be the real issue is the one that blames black culture for all the problems.
     
  7. cml750

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    SMH! FB, I don't know what to tell you. It is not white peoples fault that so many black children are born out of wedlock with absentee fathers. That is the biggest issue that causes the most problems in the black community. Black leaders like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton make a living off of blacks playing the victims. Blacks are genetically equal to all other races. There are opportunities for them to succeed if they go out and take advantage of them. Other races succeed because of the cultures they were raised in push them to succeed. Black leaders need to quit crying victim and start working to inspire young black people to take advantage of their opportunities. Will they face some racism?? Sure, it will always be there in some sort of way. There will always be idiots in this world but it is time to quit letting it be an excuse that keeps so many down.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The roots of the problem - the origins of this cycle of poverty, absentee fathers and such - go all the way back to slavery. That is what is meant by institutional racism partly. The other part is the inherent bias against blacks - such as what we see in children of both white and black kids.

    Black leaders aren't going to inspire children to change all that. You already have many black leaders including Jackson telling people to rise up and work hard and succeed. Even Louis Farrakhan gives large speeches telling people to be excellent and strive to achieve. You act like all they do is blame white people because that's how distorted your view is.

    Until you start to figure out the truth and really educated yourself on this, you are going to continue to spew very misinformed viewpoints that are frankly nonsensical.
     
  9. JeffB

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    This. Someone once told me, "Slavery was ONLY ended 150 years ago. It is still very early, historical speaking."

    There is a horrible and near pathological loop plaguing Americans when it comes to race. The U.S. ended slavery without a successful reconstruction project and entered about 80 years of Jim Crow, while under educating and economically undermining an entire sub-population of people. Effectively, black people in America have only known "true freedom" for about 50-60 years or so. And the problems black Americans have culturally are the same economically oppressed and disadvantaged people have everywhere.

    At the same time, a cultural ethic of personal responsibility dictates that only the individual is responsible for their conditions, further diminishing capacity to empathize with unfortunate people. And to top it off, skin color is being equated with these material and social problems. And this cultural perspective is being inculcated in our youth through popular media time and again. Both white and black Americans are negatively effected.

    It seems every one -- including blacks -- seems to look at African Americans through this particular lens of "personal responsibility" with little sympathy for the historical conditions and particular cultural outlooks fostered in Jim Crow. So there is no empathy. So the people society has denigrated get accused of self-victimization, being lazy, etc. Thus making these patterns even harder to break.

    And then, when some black Americans respond with some forms of self-determination that do get militant -- things like Black Power, Black Self Love, or even Black Lives Matter, they get further accused of being racist, playing victim, and/or not being responsible for themselves. It is sadly hilarious to watch responses to these things.

    History doesn't preclude current families from personal responsibility, especially in terms of having children and managing education and finances. However, we gotta stop pretending this **** is happening in a vacuum.

    Things are getting better, but cultural change is a slow process, especially in the face of general, mainstream cultural re-inforcement of the stereotypes and patterns. Stable families nurture children who then have stable families of their own. It is gonna take a quite few generations to get this ship righted.

    Anyway, all one can do is just be personally responsible. Practice safe sex. Have kids in the confines of a family and pursue education and training in economically feasible fields. Avoid mainstream American media, it just tends to cause self-esteem problems in young black children. Avoid American consumerism. And encourage one's children to do the same.
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    Anyway, the harshest criticism I have ever heard about black Americans has come from black African immigrants (especially Eritreans); immigrants whose children notably tend to not suffer the same cultural issues as native black Americans. Black Americans tend to get **** on by everybody.
     
  10. TheRealist137

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    Blacks are genetically equal, so why aren't they TREATED equally in America? I don't need to dig up statistics because you'll just ignore them.
     

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