So is this an admission that affirmative action is not in fact about fair opportunity for all qualified candidates?
No, you are wrong. Jimmy was fired because on MLK's birthday, he stated that blacks are better at sports because of slave plantation breeding techniques. A far cry from the true statement I made that simply says that coaching and playing draw on two different talent pools and skills sets. It does amaze me how often people attempt to strike down arguments based on racial topics with demagoguery or slander, as you attempted to do here, GreenVegan. You are among the many who are afraid to debate topics of race, because you blindly accept society's guilt-inspired restrictions against it and accuse everyone with a differing opinion of being racist. Are you here to say that all football players are qualified to one day coach? Are you here to say that all good players have the skills to be a good coach? Of course both these statements are false. Unfortunately, your flawed argument uses both of these assumptions.
Yeah, great catch Affirmative Action is a program to help disadvantaged students who may not meet all the qualifications required to attend a particular school. So no, its not a great catch, its stating the obvious. We all know what affirmative action is. Get over yourself.
Look Trader, we could both go down the list and name coaches who are having successful seasons and who aren't, that wasn't my point. My point in responding to this article, was that they chose to defend Erickson and Millen. Erickson is a retread coach, who hasn't been successful in the NFL. Millen has twice hired people he's admitted are friends of his. The first hire was a terrible hire. As far as Willingham is concerned, he has a proven track record in College Football, so your point is stupid as usual.
Was that first hire Mohrningweg? If it was, then Millen wasn't much of a friend for dumping him for Mariucci.
Most players are black and most coaches are white. But this is OK to you, because coaches and players come from different talent pools. This is nonsense. All NFL coaches have pro experience, so they come from the same pool. And yet, despite being in the minority, there are MANY more whites than blacks in the coaching ranks. Your prejudices are veiled in pseudo-intellectual queries of so-called academic interest, but they're still prejudices.
Just to be accurate, all NFL coaches were not former players if that is what you meant by NFL experience. Jon Gruden comes to mind. Many college players do not have the skills to turn pro and go into coaching right after college like Gruden.
The NFL rules are absolutely silly. The owners have the right to hire whomever they want to coach the team. Bob McNair can hire a chimp to coach if he so choses. Who the heck would want to be the token black interviewee for a job that he knows won't be his. Also, you don't need to be an ex player to be management material. Besides, would you hire most of these players to run a McDonalds, much less run a football team? Ty Willingham screwed up last year and broke out the green jerseys against Boston College and the team has gone downhill since. Bad karma. Notre Dame still gets the better recruits. It's just a matter of playing up to their ability.
Maybe there are more white coaches because they can create offensive playbooks and scheme defenses better than blacks can in general. In any case, that affirmative action rule is ridiculous. I want a reverse affirmative action rule so I can transfer to UT and play D1 football.
Wrong. This is an outright lie. All NFL coaches do *not* have pro experience. Where did Dom Capers play professionally? Defend yourself, GreenVegan. Again, we are returned to the question: Why do blacks trust NFL owners to not discriminate in their choice of players, when they do not trust those same owners to not discriminate in their choice of coaches? The logic just simply doesn't add up.
Again for the r****ds, There is no policy that forces any team to hire any coach it doesn't want to, and there is no policy that guarantees X number of black coaches in the NFL. As far as your other point about whites being able to scheme plays better than blacks, that's just flat out a racist statement, but its par for the course coming from you.
But the policy that forces interviews is still stupid because if an owner doesn't want to hire a coach in the first place, the interview is useless and if he does, the forced interview is uncessary. And I didn't say that they could scheme better, I said that they possibly coul scheme better. And it's racist? Why. Because it pertains to race? So does this whole thread. You just have to accept that each race has strengths and weaknesses. You don't see too many Asian guys running 4.3 forties do you?
Interestingly, if you were to make each of the following statements which can be supported by studies and facts regarding performance, which would be considered racist? 1) On average, blacks have better athletic athletic ability than Asians. 2) On average Asians are smarter than blacks. Clearly there exists a double standard which people like pgabriel and Haiku River refuse to acknowledge.
Just because you believe in these silly stereo types doesn't mean everyone has to. But I'm glad you're exposing yourself as time passes.
It's pretty easy to measure athletic ability but not so easy to measure intelligence ( biased tests etc. ) so obviously (2) would be more racist. Can we all agree that statement (1) is true?
