These polls are saying Nader is at 3 percent, which is absolutely absurd. He only got in 2.5 percent in 2000, and he was running an all-out campaign then.
There's more animosity toward the two major candidates this time around, so I'm not surprised a third option protest candidate's doing marginally better. I don't think it'll last.
Well, looks like Nadar will be on the Florida ballot come Nov 2 http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/18/presidential.polls.nader/index.html The Florida Supreme Court, by a 6-to-1 vote, rejected legal challenges brought by the state's Democratic Party and seven voters, who argued that Nader should be kept from appearing on the ballot as the Reform Party's candidate because it is no longer a viable national party. The Florida Democratic Party later announced that it would not continue to pursue the legal fight.
Nice spin. Even the CBS/New York Times has Bush still far ahead. I bet Rather can't be happy with that. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/17/opinion/polls/main644205.shtml
Bush Seen Vulnerable to Kerry Among Independent Voters By David Morgan KENNEBUNKPORT, Maine (Reuters) - President Bush, who holds a sizable lead in some polls, still appears to be vulnerable to Democrat John Kerry among independent voters whose shifting loyalties could determine the winner of the November election, pollsters say. Polling results from the Pew Research Center, the Christian Science Monitor and the Gallup Organization suggest independent voters are favoring Kerry as concerns about the economy and Iraq re-emerge as top campaign issues, despite a surge of support for Bush following the Republican convention. "At this point, it seems that Kerry's doing slightly better than Bush among independents," said Jeff Jones, managing editor of the Gallup Poll. A new Gallup survey released on Friday showed the Democratic presidential nominee leading Bush 50-43 percent among independents, even though the Republican incumbent held a 13-percentage-point lead among voters overall. A Monitor/TIPP survey, one of several that showed the national presidential race returning to a dead heat, suggested a 10-point Kerry lead among independents. The Gallup and Monitor polls both had 4 percent margins of error. A New York Times/CBS poll released on Saturday found that among likely voters, Bush led Kerry 51 percent to 42 percent. The poll, however, did not break out the views of independents. Independents could prove vital in the Nov. 2 election, which many expect to be as close as the 2000 race that ended in a legal battle before the U.S. Supreme Court. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...u=/nm/20040918/pl_nm/campaign_independents_dc
I respectfully disagree. That's what all of the Bush haters want to hear and Kerry already has their vote. Kerry needs to stick to the issues about what he is going to do to help the middle class, keep jobs from going overseas, etc.. I think that's how he will get the undecided vote. Piling on Bush is old and only unifies the Republican party more.
Thank God the mobs from the far-left urban hellholes of the East Coast and California do not elect our president. The Electoral College has saved us from years of Democratic misrule. Otherwise we would have elected Mondull, Gore and another term of Carter in addition to eight years of that lying b*stard Clinton and our nation would have collapsed because of the total lack of leadership and cowardice of all of those aforementioned.
Bama, do you have to post garbage like this? "Thank God the mobs from the far-left urban hellholes of the East Coast and California do not elect our president." Man, if you want to post this kind of crap, go find an "ESPN D&D," or it's equivalent message board, and do it there, OK? You are one of the big problems we have in D&D. You clearly don't know how to have anything approaching a normal discussion in this forum.
He's intelligent, and has things to contribute, but in this forum he chooses to just post stuff that attempts to get everyone fighting with each other, instead of having any sort of decent discussion. He's not like this in the other forums, so why in the hell be like that here?? I just don't get it.
What makes you think people from the deep south and the west (east of Cali) are more qualified to elect our president? Isn't a popular vote true "democracy." My problem the the electoral college is that if you are a Democrat in Texas (there are plenty in Houston and Dallas) or a Republican in New York (like most of Wall St) there really is no point in voting. Either go with an entirely popular vote or divide the electoral votes to each candidate based on their share of the popular vote.
If I remember correctly, I believe bama works in newspapers or radio. His obscenely hyperbolic and barely rational writing is characteristic of someone who desperately wants to be the next big Bill O'Reilly. I think he's practicing making his opinions as ridiculously extreme as he believes they need to be in order to transform him into a big Righteous hit with the professional-wrestling-as-politics crowd. The trick is, and I think he's figured it out, to simultaneously court controversy and gain adherents: By pissing off the whacko college liberals (usually through spewing ridiculous rhetoric into an otherwise serious political dialogue), one makes the monster-truck-rally politicos into lifelong devotees, and lifelong devotees are a great source of ad revenue for whatever medium one chooses for one's paint-by-number rants. Then the dough starts rollin' in. But really, who can blame him? We all have our dreams.
Reagan won the EC twice handily so why do you say Carter and Mondale would have won. I already posted the truth about this in another thread. Since the Republican Party came into existence it has won the EC and the presidency more often the democrats. But I guess you believe one American's vote is more important and should count more than another's.
And yet, this is still what one poll says... A Gallup Poll released Friday showed the president widening his lead over Kerry among likely voters to 13 percentage points, with 55 percent for Bush and 42 percent for Kerry.
Republican Senator Says He May Not Support Bush By Thomas Ferraro WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Sen. Lincoln Chafee, a Republican moderate from Rhode Island, said on Monday he might not vote for President Bush in the Nov. 2 election. Chafee stressed, however, that he has no plans to bolt his party, and that if he does not back Bush he will write in the name of another Republican. His spokesman Stephen Hourahan said afterward that if Chafee does write in a name it would be that of Bush's father, former President Bush. "I'll look at my options," Chafee said in a brief interview on Capitol Hill after discussing his indecision about the current president earlier in the day with reporters in his home state. Asked if he might not vote for the president, Chafee said: "That's accurate." His office said this has been his position for months, though it has gotten little, if any, attention in Washington. "There is no secret that on some very important issues I have difference with the current administration," Chafee said, listing abortion rights, the environment and war in Iraq . "Like all Americans we are looking for some answers to key questions in the weeks ahead," Chafee said. "You wait until November 2 and make your choices." On the other side of the aisle in the Senate, Democratic Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia has long backed Bush over his own party's nominee, Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) of Massachusetts. Chafee's comments on Monday drew mixed reaction from fellow senators. "It's unfortunate," said Sen. Kit Bond, a Missouri Republican. "He is a gutsy and principled guy," said Sen. Thomas Carper a Delaware Democrat. "He marches to his own drummer." "He is a good fiscal conservative," Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), a South Carolina Republican, said with a chuckle. "What I like about him is that he can be a Republican senator and at the same time say he is unsure about a Republican president," Graham said. "He is a breath of fresh air in politics." http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...6&e=1&u=/nm/20040920/pl_nm/campaign_chafee_dc
