A change by Monday would pretty much rule out the possibility of an Alston, Swift, or DA trade. Either Wesley is being traded or Van Gundy is being fired or quiting. Whatever move the Rockets decide to make, it needs to be a long term move. Not one of these band aid moves like signing Sprewell or trading for Patterson. The Rockets should learn from their mistake last season. They made a bunch of moves for old veteran players that would help them out for half a season. Now look at them, they're back to square one. We can't keep going through this process every season. We can't keep bringing in old veterans to help us out for a season, only to all be replaced the next season. The Rockets need some continuity. They need to find some hungry YOUNG players like Luther Head that can be building blocks that'll stick around +3 seasons.
Bingo! Well said, just what I was thinking. I'm dying to know what changes are coming! I've been a really big JVG fan but I'm starting to question his ability. I can't understand, with the talent we have, why we are not more competative. This is what makes me think it very well might be the coaching.
It is the coaching. This injury excuse is running really thin. Suns seem to be able to win without Amare. Pacers of last year won without half their players. Spers seem to win whenever Duncan is missing. Heat seem to be doing okay without Shaq.
We need quicker players......Tmac & Luther Head are the only starting players that have the speed to match up with other teams. Wesley is slow Yao is slow Juwan is slow That is 60% of our starting 5 that is slow......you can mask one guy, maybe even 2, but not 3...and we have no speed on the bench either. Dion Glover getting hurt is a bigger blow than anyone could imagine, he would be getting major minutes right now, and we could use him. DD
I agree, but it has taken me a while to come to this point. I guess I was really hoping JVG was the man. There is just no way we should be doing as poorly with our level of talent.
JVG is gonna do the right thing for once thisseason and resign! Yeah......................................
Exactly, the patchwork approach on the cheap has failed. Unless a major move can be made, the Rockets appear to be lottery bound.
We can't turn water into wine here. If anyone is looking to move Wesley for a young player with upside you guys are living in a dreamworld. I would be surprised to see Wesley turned into Micheal Pietrus, Mo Peterson or Desmond Mason. Maybe if you included a 1st round pick. But then again, we dont want to be giving up 1st rounders as those bring guys like Head, the young players we are looking for. You have to be realistic here. You dont want "band aid" moves but that's all we can do with the assets we have right now. I agree "ideally" it would be great to get young guys. But they are tough to get when your bait is Wesley. Stromile is by FAR our best chip. But we cant move him until Dec 15th I believe. Those of you who want these "young players" please detail who you want and what trades we can "realistically" make to make it happen. And I would be VERY hesitant to move our 1st round pick to gain a player unless it was a 'slam dunk' trade for talent.
Yeah we could bring back Rod Strickland and he and Spree can have wheelchair races! You are remembering the young, fast, good shooting version of Spree, not the senior Spreewell of the present. All this team needs is one more old, slow, broken-down guard!
I would suggest Danny Fortson. I know! But you said think outside the box. I watched him this weekend and he came in and completely nuetralized Big Z. by pushing him around. He may not be the only solution but he may be the start. Just a thought.
Solid, please suggest the young legs potential player we can obtain for a 35 year old David Wesley. I am not holding my breath. It's all fine and good to say "no more old Knicks player, no more old legs" but that's easy to say. We ALL agree with that. But what is the alternative? We mixed it up last year with Wesley/Barry/James and if we make some calculated moves we can do that again this year. They arent young legs but they got us wins. And in the "long term" we keep cashing in on our 1st round picks and hope we continue to get players like Head.
Personally speaking, I would much rather wait out the contracts of DW, JB, Moochie and others and use that money in the off-season rather than trade their expiring contracts for "quick-fix" players that have longer and worse contracts, because we think short-term and are trying to salvage this season instead of thinking ahead for the future. Look, bottom line is this league has completely moved away from old, veteran teams (point to one great team in the Western Conf that depends on old, broke-down players like we do). Every single time we make a move it seems like we get slightly older or slightly dumber. The only place left for veteran oldies in this league is as bench players, not starters (San Antonio, for example, does a great job of adding veteran, capable players like Finely/NVE/Horry to their young core of players, but they don't suffer much because they assign those veteran players to roles they can contribute well in during the season and more specifically during the playoffs to get them over the hump). Personally speaking, I think Sura/JB/DW/Mutombo would be very good bench players, but they would have to be really cheap to have and that would require us to add two more solid starting-caliber players to play alongside Yao/T-Mac/Head. Their REAL value would be during the playoffs, where their experience could help us counter San Antonio and Dallas and other teams, while at the same time we wouldn't heavily depend on them during the season in roles they're not really fit to fulfill.
Those teams have depth. Rox have guys starting who would be in and out of their inactive list if they were on those teams.
I'm not expecting a starting caliber player for Wesley. I'm talking an 8th man off the bench type of player that will bring some energy and athleticism. Some examples: Maurice Evans (Detroit) Tony Allen (Boston) Luke Jackson (Cleveland) Fred Jones (Indiana) Maurice Williams (Milwaukee) Josh Childress (Atlanta) Kirk Snyder (Hornets) Greg Buckner (Denver) These are all very attainable players, even if they aren't starting caliber players. At least they're players we could count on being solid bench contributors for many seasons. You guys are way too focused on getting big "name" players like Spreewell, Al Harrington, Patterson, Peterson, when that's not what we need. We need some young, unproven, hungry players, that are looking to make a name for themselves. Look at what Phoenix has been able to do with James Jones and Boris Diaw. Those guys were scrubs sitting at the end of the bench before they went to Phoenix. Now they're making huge contributions.
I wonder if this has to do with the information posted earlier by Doc Rocket on their shopping Swift and trying to move Alston & Wesley.
