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Quick question about Rondo and nba superstars

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by y2j850, Jul 26, 2010.

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  1. YouCompleteMe

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    Did y'all even watch the playoffs? Rondo was incredible.
     
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    I like Nash but I love PG's who do what they're supposed to... pass, score, make plays but if they can play defense as well that's awesome. If they can rebound on top of the passing, scoring, play making, and defending then you have a special player. That's what Rondo is.

    If Rondo wanted to grab 10+ rebounds on any given night I honestly think he could. If he wanted to score 20+ on any given night he could. If he wanted to get at least 12+ assists he could. If he wanted 5+ steals I bet he could as well. I honestly don't think many players can do that no matter how hard they tried.

    He's the complete player on both ends of the court and everybody says his shot is broke but he's worked on it a lot and I've noticed a big improvement this year compared to last. He's the type of feisty competitor that always works to improve his game and I really think he want's to be the best.

    If any of us predicted that Rondo was going to be a top 5 Point Guard (#3 in my book) in the league four years ago....people would have though you're ****ing nuts. You don't get to that level without hard work and dedication.

    They said Boston couldn't win with Rondo running the point his rookie year. Now it's can't win without Rondo.
     
  3. RedNation

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    Rondo is a superstar. Peopke say his jumpshot is bad. Well I can point out weak points in other pg. For example nash could be more agressive and play better d. Dwill can get unjazzified. You can keep talking about weak points in every player but rondo is the complete package and a superstar.
     
  4. MightyMog

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    Give me Rondo because when was the last time an Elite PG actually won a championship based on his ability to score????????


    Rondo - plays tough defense, can drive to the point, can obviously pass, can rebound...everything but a stupid jumper

    We seen how good his jumper was when Rondo is deep in the playoffs why those other Elite PG are watching him at home....

    Save some salary get a 10 million PG (invest in some damn help) vs 15-18 million PG.
     
  5. Shaud

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    I'd take Westbrook over Brooks and Harris.
     
  6. YouCompleteMe

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    I'm talking about Rondo,Nash,Paul,Williams... he isn't an elite pg yet.. he's not on their level yet...
     
  7. Shaud

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    The myth that Rondo is carried by 3 all-stars.

    Pierce was missing damn near the whole Cleveland series.
    Ray Allen has been inconsistent as hell in the playoffs the last two years.
    Kevin Garnett has not been the same KG for the last two years.


    It's really time for a lot of you to say they are the reason he has been so successful. Without Rondo they don't make the finals. If they had an average PG they would not have made the finals this year.
     
  8. Shaud

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    Oh okay got you. I think he will be close to that level in two years. Right now you're right though.
     
  9. YouCompleteMe

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    This is exaclty what i have been trying to tell people.
     
  10. roslolian

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    Well IMHO Rondo is a superstar already. Like what everyone's saying shooting is just about the only flaw in his game. Normally that would be a major disadvantage but Rondo can get around that with his penetration and ability to finish in the paint.

    I mean, what else do you want for a superstar? He's only 24, already a champion, and managed to average a triple double in the playoffs?

    And LOL at those thinking the big 3 made Rondo look better. Its actually the opposite. Perkins and Rondo are now the most important celtic players, followed by KG.
     
  11. roslolian

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    This is esp. true with Pierce and Allen. KG's d will never go away, so he's still solid in my book. However Pierce and Allen definitely haven't been pulling their weight.
     
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    Rondo is the best defensive PG in the league since Gary Payton was in his prime. That means so much more than a jumpshot.
     
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    Rondo is the best compliment PG who does not hog the ball or dictate the offense. He just gets the job done efficiently. I would take Rondo over Paul and Williams if I have another star wing player. He is the PG version of Martin.
     
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    It depends on what you mean by superstar. I think there are currently 4 superstars in the league: Kobe, Wade, Lebron and CP3, with 2 guys dropping out due to old age (KG + Duncan) and two guys knocking on the door (Howard and Durant).

    So I don't think Rondo is a superstar. He's got a chance to be a superstar if he can shoot better. But I'm starting to wonder if that will ever happen.
     
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    To call him a superstar would be to put him with the likes of Lebron, Kobe, Wade, et al, which I don't think you can at this point. Rondo is an all-star level player, but he hasn't reached superstar status yet.

    If he gets a solid jumper that disallows defenders to play 3 feet off him, then I think you could very well call him the best PG in the league.
     
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    Teams focus their defense on Boston's old-timers. We will know in a few years if Rondo can carry Boston to the Finals.
     
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    Ronda is the bigger version of Lowry.
     
  18. Shaud

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    They also focus on Rondo. There is a reason that LeBron James and Kobe Bryant both wanted to guard him.

    Why in the world do people keep discrediting him.

    The man averaged a triple double in one series last year in which Kevin Garnett didn't even play.
     
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    That's true for the most part. Put Lowry in Rondo's long frame and I think you see similar results. I think someone mentioned it earlier, but Rondo is basically a defensive ace who is efficient offensively - makes smart passes for the most part, gets to the hoop when the defense allows....but I wouldn't classify him as a top 3 PG as a passer(Kidd, Nash, CP3), playmaker(CP3, DWill, Nash), or shooter(this doesn't even need justification). He can run a system well and that is valuable to a championship team and of course his defensive skills are top notch...but he isn't special at any of the PG specific skills and he is NOT a "star". A "star" can carry a team if need be for a long stretch of time. Rondo can carry a team through quarters and sometimes games, but he has never been the type of guy(or will be) who can consistently take a game over for games at a time. Put him on the Nets or the Wizards and they might win a few more games, but he isn't going to lead a team of scrubs and marginal talent to the playoffs.....however Jason Kidd took Vince freaking Carter and a bunch of scrubs to the Finals and Nash took whatever in the hell that Phoenix team was this past year to the WCFs. I can't see Rondo doing that for either of those teams so no, he isn't a star.
     
  20. Shaud

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    No he didn't.

    The Nets teams that made the finals did not have Vince Carter on them.
     

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