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Question: why did the rockets let lowry and dragic go, but signed jeremy lin?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by what, Dec 23, 2014.

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  1. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

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    I find it hard to believe that the Grizzles wouldn't trade Conley for Harden straight up.
     
  2. DREAM ON!

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    Les thought Lin would be the same Asian cash cow that Yao was.
     
  3. aelliott

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    Let's see, in his first two years here Harden has been an all star twice, one 3rd team all-NBA, one 1st team all-NBA, top 5 in MVP voting , top 5 scorer in both seasons, was the most clutch player in the league last season and played for USA Basketball Gold Medal team last summer. This season he's leading the league in scoring and is one of the early favorites for MVP.

    Lowry and Conley have zero all star appearances between them.

    Yeah, that's a tough call.
     
  4. Aleron

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    Every perimeter player's outbursts are built on a good shooting night, the advantage centers have is that once they beat their man, what's left? which is why Hakeem used to like going out to 15 feet and driving past them, was once he did, he went into a vast open wasteland between him and the rim (do you get why Hakeem thinks center is the most important positionally? defensively you're the last line, offensively beating your man is game over).

    Defenses contort around Harden, help is ever present, no individual player can guard him, you even have impartial commentators noting how he has a gravitational force drawing defenses toward him. There's a reason he's the league's best clutch player, typically when defenses are at their most active, because his ability to create a shot for himself that he can make or for someone else is unparalleled.

    You also seem to have this "everyone else but me is a homer" view, every one is biased, you should try using external sources to taper yours, and it might be a little easier to understand why even people like Bill Simmons and David Aldridge (not Houston fans by any stretch) have him at the top of their mvp. If you asked yourself, why does the team USA coaching staff, the all nba voters, the mvp voters, the coaches selecting for the all star team all think Harden is a better player, how has that the issue is you not come up?
     
  5. aelliott

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    Here's a better question:

    Why did Memphis keep Conley and trade the superior player Lowry? Further why did they only get Adonal Foyle and a draft pick that they turned into DeMarre Carroll in exchange for Lowry.

    Doesn't that seem strange that you'd only get Foyle and Carroll in exchange for the same player that Houston could turn into a guaranteed lottery pick that could be used to acquire Harden?

    Just Curious.
     
  6. downbytheriver

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    Cmon. He is asking why Houston lost interest in Lowry in the first place to trade him. Despite being a big performer on a small contract. This was long before Harden.

    Was it internal issues?
     
  7. flamingdts

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    I'm more curious as to why Memphis traded Kevin Love for OJ Mayo, and then followed that up next year by drafting Thabeet over Harden.
     
  8. aelliott

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    Pretty simple. They realized that you can't win a title without a superstar. They focused on acquiring assets and having the flexibility to make a deal if the opportunity arose.
    Morey said that teams tend to value draft picks and their potential over established players. Because of that a guaranteed lottery pick was a more attractive trade chip than Lowry.
     
  9. dchoye

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    Same reason Morey cut Lin and then sign him back to a multimillion dollar contact.
    Morey lets the PGs go, develop and perform better with another team then sign them back afterwards.
    We tried to sign Lowery back this past summer.
    We trying to Dragic back.
    We probably going to let Bev go then sign him back after he explodes with another team.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    $$$$ pure and simple, we let Lowry go because he hated McHale, and we let Dragic go because the team did not want to give him the player option - even though they just gave one to Howard.

    They then signed Lin because Les wanted to keep the Chinese market leadership that he had procured with Yao Ming.

    DD
     
  11. nolimitnp

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    It was at least partly to do with the untapped Asian market. We all know Yao was a cash cow.
     
  12. SPBR

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    Les may have wanted Lin over Dragic, but Morey did offer a contract to Dragic similar to what the Suns offered sans the player option. It was Dragic who chose the Suns. Without a franchise level player, locking in an (what seemed at the time) above average point guard with a player option was a risk Morey wasn't ready to take.

    Morey's ability to trade Lin for a chance at Bosh was what he had in mind when not matching a player option. Too bad it didn't work out in Rocket's favor and a 1st and 2nd rounder was needed. Dragic, even with player option, may have been easier to trade than Lin. So Rockets did underestimate Dragic's value.
     
  13. dharocks

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    Question: What does one call people who allow themselves to be continuously trolled by a complete nincompoop?
     
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    Both didn't want to stay anyway.

    Lowry had problems with Mchale and coming off the bench, while Dragic made it clear that he wanted to go back to Phoenix.
     
  15. arabrocket

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    What, always amazes me. " lowery and harden on the same level ? " smh wow
     
  16. Gimmmethemike

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    Good stuff bro
     
  17. arabrocket

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    " what " should be banned for his trolling, Harden is a true MVP period. Troll
     
  18. Mr Chuck Norris

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    I never laughed so hard in my life. Can we lock this thread now. A season where harden is averaging 27 AND dishing out 7 assists.
     
  19. cebu

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    Les like sushi.
     
  20. J Sizzle

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    I actually agree with a majority of what you say, but there isn't a single GM in the league who would take Conley over Harden, the Grizzlies GM included. I don't even think that's debatable.
     

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