Good points Ric. I was saying his hypothetically increased propensity for injury if moved to half back would be exacerbated by his height. Compactness is a virtue for players whose job it is to receive devastating blows, almost always to the knees. This would be a certain change from the chase-em down type open-field tackles he was getting under center. Again, all hypothetical. I'd love to see the Dolphins pick him up, and use him as a dual-threat passing half back. As per the OP's question.... Inevitably, as good as Shwabby MIGHT play this year, I can see no scenario where he doesn't miss 3-7 starts. This frightens me, as Rex Grossman or Dan "the-endzone-lines-are-optional" Orlovsky would be picking up this slack. Vick seems a much better risk than either of these bozos. Yes, he would be a PR nightmare. Yes, this will never happen on McNair's watch. But one has to think that even the fickle, conservative Texans fan base would warm up to the idea of forgiving/re-rationilizing his atrocities if he could rush for 400 and throw for 1000/10.
Inevitably, as good as Shwabby MIGHT play this year, I can see no scenario where he doesn't miss 3-7 starts. This frightens me, as Rex Grossman or Dan "the-endzone-lines-are-optional" Orlovsky would be picking up this slack. Vick seems a much better risk than either of these bozos. Well one of those Bozos (Grossman) made it to a superbowl. To have Rex G. as a third stringer with his experience imo can only be a good thing. Plus he has got to be hungry being in this position, yes he is in this position for a reason, but you could do much worse. Vick in my mind absolutely deserves a chance to earn a spot in the league. He made a huge mistake but paid the price and did his time. Personally I think this team is ready to take the next step but the last thing they need is a distraction that big. Vick is right for someone just not the Texans. I think the team is very comfortable with the QB situation, and I trust their assessment of D.O. One play being the endzone debacle doesn't make a player. I'm with you somewhat on Schaub when it comes to injuries but look at some of the hits that put him out. Can't help the cheap shots like J Allen put on him and was fined for
it seems far too many fans have forgotten what a mediocre-or-worse QB sage rosenfels was when we signed him. kubiak resurrected his career and turned him into a 3rd round pick. (or 4th - whatever, i can't remember now; point is a legit playoff contender dealt for him - think they do that 4 years ago?) orlovsky is younger, with fewer bad habits, than rosenfels and silly sportscenter-fodder highlights aside, played decently on one of the all-time worst team in nfl history. i'll be shocked if he doesn't play admirably IF he has to fill in for schaub this year.
Vick might be better than Orlovsky or Grossman. But is the circus that will follow him worth a 3rd string qb? I'd prefer that I don't know who the 3rd string qb is. No one that low on the depth chart should be a distraction to the team.
could careless about his qb rating, his completion percentage, or anything else....he won games. that's all that matters. he beat brett favre at lambeau. if the price is right, then i'd take him on my team
ok, but by that logic, so did orlovsky - so he must not have sucked, either... right? regardless - rosenfels did indeed suck prior to coming here. in miami, he connected on 49.5 % of his completions and posted a 68.4 QB rating. and he was beaten out by jay fiedler (twice), aj feely and gus frerotte - none of which are waiting by the phone for a call from canton. as a texan, btw, 65.6%/84.3. orlovsky is 3 years younger and posted a 72.6 qb rating on the worst team, by record, in the entire history of the national football league. i have few doubts, assuming there aren't issues unbeknowst to us, that he can make a comparable leap under kubiak.
not to mention that orlovsky's stats were appreciably better early in the season when all team members hadn't opened up a can of quit.
Did not read the whole thread. Someone did point out that "Sage" is long gone. Regardless of how well or healthy Schaub is this year. Michael Vick will never play a down for or get a tryout by McNair. I don't think it's coincidence that there have been few if any character issues on this team ala the Cowgirls.
As a Falcons fan I would like to say I don't think Vick would be that effective as a running back. The reason he is such a threat with running the ball as a QB is because he has the option to throw the ball, which means the defense can't just focus on him running the ball. Also for all the he was a horrible QB comments, I will just say that Greg Knapp was his coordinator. We also had an ex offensive lineman as our Wide Receivers coach. Vick's best season was the season under Dan Reeves who knew how to use Vick. Vick broke his leg the next year, our team sucked and for some reason Arthur Blank fired Dan Reeves. After that Vick's career went down the drain.
Stictly as a football player, I have to agree with Legend, regarding Vick's fit with this offense, taking him as a back-up. Kubiak did wonders with another athletic quarterback with accuracy issues in Jake "the Snake" Plummer. Vick is obviously more athletic and has a cannon of an arm. Not sure the Texans have the team structure or leadership to handle all the baggage that Vick will bring tho.
None of the above- No, because we already have three QB's- all of which have started NFL games recently.
I have to respectfully disagree with this logic, because the two backups didn't exactly have quality starts.
I love it how you all just defend these criminals and want them associated with the name "Houston Texans." We are NOT the Arlington team, dudes. It's saddening, actually.
i respectfully disagree with your respectful disagreement. grossman had quite a few quality performances the year he started a super bowl. and orlovsky had a nice 5-game stretch last year in which he posted an 88.2 or higher qb rating in 4 of them. granted, they don't have AS many... then again, they also haven't broken any federal laws and/or viciously killed any animals.... vick was not a very good *qb* - he was a playmaker, a terrific playmaker. but the basic fundamentals of the qb'ing position eluded him, and this team is built around having a competent qb. he'd be a terrible fit. frankly, i don't grossman's a very good fit, either - but better than vick.
McNair has already said that there is zero chance of this happening, so this is really a moot question/thread.
I thought Rosenfels was pretty good Before Kubiak came here [should have started over the #1 Draft Pick] and I remember Kubes promising to take a #1 Draft Pick and make him into something which did not happen . . . No dogging Kubes but seems you giving a little more credit in this senario than is due Rocket River
kubiak signed rosenfels. i don't pin an ounce of that on kubiak. by the time he got ahold of carr, whatever potential and passion for the game #8 1.0 might've had at one point had been extinguished; he was a lost cause.
