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Question for UT fans

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by R0ckets03, Sep 11, 2005.

  1. wizkid83

    wizkid83 Member

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    I love the BCS system, why? Would a non conference game between these school be as big if it wasn't for the BCS? It'd still be a big game, but it wouldn't be one of those most important game of the season at WEEK2 if it wasn't for the BCS.
     
  2. vj23k

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    How about one game vs. a seven game series? I think the four BCS bowl average is a better comparison for the NBA finals, really.

    So, yeah, college football is indeed more popular, but I don't think by much. I don't think the NBA will reach the popularity it had in the Jordan years any time in the foreseeable future, but it's not that far behind NCAA football.
     
  3. vj23k

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    That's why a combination of BCS + playoffs would be optimum. Let the 8 BCS play teams play a mini-playoff. Usually the top 8 are undefeated, one, or two loss...why should the team that had the balls to schedule good non-conference teams be penalized? Why did OU/USC have more claim to the national championship than Auburn last year? A mini-playoff system would usually allow all the undefeated teams to duke it out.
     
  4. wizkid83

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    I actually wouldn't mind that as much. Still plenty of room for controversy, still a lot need to win all your games. Gotta say it'll be fun.
     
  5. RIET

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    The ratings are higher despite not having a playoff system and without THE most popular team in college football - Notre Dame really particpiating.

    The popularity of college football would be more evident if a playoff system was enacted which would easily draw a lot more fans similar to the Final Four.

    How many more fans would watch the Rose Bowl, Fiesta, Sugar Bowl if it was a step closer to the national title than just a consolation bowl game - a lot more.

    Also, the NBA Finals only draws more fans if Chicago, NY or LA is playing.

    It's highly dependent on those teams and those big markets.

    If San Antonio, Phoenix, Sacramento, Dallas, or Houston were to make the finals, the ratings would be just as bad as last year which averaged about a 7.
     
  6. R0ckets03

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    Thanks to most everyone for their explanations. I honestly did not know Notre Dame and Michigan's rankings. Or that they play each other every year. That of course makes the UT and Ohio State a much bigger game.

    I still think it would be a better system with playoffs.

    And dongrahmwhatever...you need to seriously chill man. does your whole life revolve around Pakistan winning that one series against India? I seriously hope not. I am glad Paki won that meaningless series so they brought some joy to your meaningless life.

    oh yeah...4-0 dumb ass.
     
  7. HayesStreet

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    Alabama has 12 National Championships. So I think you'd have to put them on any 'top tier' list.
     
  8. Mr. Brightside

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    Dude, Pakistan blows. Once I went to Pakistan... Oh wait, no one goes to Pakistan except low-lifes and peaches.
     
  9. the futants

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    from the buckeyes preview:

    To understand why, let's take a look at the list of the all-time top-10 programs, based on winning percentage, in major college history. Here are the teams:

    Michigan, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Alabama, tOSU, Texas, Nebraska, Tennessee, USC, and Penn St.

    What's interesting is that every team on that list has played every other team on that list, with one exception. Ohio State and Texas will be meeting for the first time on Saturday, and history will be made. This game will mark the last time that two of the top-10 teams of all time will have their initial meeting on the gridiron.
     
  10. A-Train

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    In what city is Ohio State located? I'm sure if they had temporarily changed the name of the city to "Dallas" for the week, they might have beaten the Horns...
     
  11. vj23k

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    I'm not really sure what I'm arguing...college football is definitely the more popular of the two leagues, and it doesn't even have anything to do with the NBA's marketing. College sports have an inherent advantage in that they are able to draw their fanbase from their student bodies and alumni, numbering tens of thousands at most of the premier football programs in the country.

    Bowl Games also have pretty awesome timing. I think the Super Bowl is the only game that will draw hideous numbers of fans regardless of timing. The other highly rated games are played on Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, etc...The big four bowl games are all played on or around New Years.
     
  12. couple of d's

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    thats it im going to the game next year in austin if i have to sell one of my lungs to get in. is this the year we finally beat the sooners? they look really weak on offense with their quarterback situation.
     
  13. R0ckets03

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    So which one is the most important bowl?

    Rose, Orange, etc.?
     
  14. VesceySux

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    Every year, the BCS National Championship game rotates between the various top bowl games (Sugar, Rose, Orange, Fiesta).
     
  15. Manny Ramirez

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    Wilco is a kickass band

    What the futants said - that really answers your question in a nutshell, 03. Although many others gave reasons as well. But college football has always been about tradition. The dotting of the I by the Ohio State Band is considered to be one of college football's greatest traditions. Michigan and Tennessee seem to alternate every home game with who has the bigger attendance (over 111,000 people). Notre Dame has "Touchdown Jesus" - the list goes on and on. It is also these traditions and history that helps teams recruit their players out of high school. If you notice, the University of Texas uses their storied tradition and history to attract the best players to play for them.

    And as for why there is no playoff - I think it is mainly because college football enjoys the controversy and the constant discussion of who should be playing for the national title. The college presidents always use the excuse that having a playoff adds too many games for the student athlete, but it is funny how at all other levels of the NCAA (Division I-AA, II, and III) they have a playoff system. It also has to do with the big bowls like the Orange, Rose, etc. having HUGE payouts to the teams and their conferences. I believe that the college presidents have doubts that they can make the same amount of money with a playoff system compared to the bowl system (which I think is unfounded but nevertheless...).

    I can talk about college football all day long, 03, sorta like you can talk about cricket all day long. :)
     
  16. Nashvegas

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    Not that it matters in this discussion, but Texas was not #1 in 1983. Nebraska was #1 in 1983 but lost to #5 Miami when the went for 2.

    Texas was #2, Auburn #3 had barely won their bowl game against a 2 loss Michigan team, and #4 Illinois had lost in the Rose Bowl.

    Had Texas beat Georgia, they would have won the title.
     
  17. Manny Ramirez

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    Damn, how did I miss that! As a Miami fan, I should have been all over that but you are exactly right Nashvegas on how Miami was able to ascend to #1. So many things had to happen but they all did for my Canes. That was the game that made me fall in love with them. ;)
     
  18. Nashvegas

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    One of my old roomates was a Georgia fan, and he would always ask me what time it was. He used to say "it's always 10 to 9 in Texas" :mad:
     
  19. haven

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    Just a note on aggy:

    only people who (a) are aggy or (b) don't know football history think of TAMU as Texas' biggest rival.

    To a Texans fan, it's sort of a game that we'd rather win than most, because we have to put up with co-workers who went to TAMU.

    There's a really good post on hornfans right now about UT versus tamu historically (suffice it to say, TAMU has had one good 10 year period in its entire history)...but you can cap it with this: Texas has a more than 2 to 1 advantage in the series.

    Texas' rival is OU. Then aggy and arky are sort of far beneath.
     
  20. gucci888

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    ^ Agreed. Being a younger generation LongHorn fan, I definitely think OU is our biggest rival hands down. I'm sure some older alumn might think different, but Texas-TAMU has never been too much of a series ever since I've been watching. They just don't share the same competition and hatred as those Sooners.

    It will always come down to Texas-OU. It's the only way Mack Brown can't shed the "losing the big game" label and it's the only way Vince will win the Heisman.
     

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