i dont know what's scarier. people who like him, or people who believe what he says. Bill Maher is a comedian on HBO. On top of that he never increased the chance for people to take horrible action on president. glenn beck brought paranoia to people and it's off the charts to the point where it's not ridiculous to think that someone might threaten the president's life. "We are headed towards socialism, totalitarianism beyond your wildest imagination." also "obama is a racist" ummmm his mother was a white woman, but okay. this glenn back guy is freaking crazy. 99% sure that TJ and Basso wouldnt even agree with what this guy says. I mustve missed when Olberman and even Bill Maher (when not joking) has said something to that extreme regarding bush. something that would rile people up At the end of the day i think it comes down to race when it comes to hating obama. Olberman has said george bush should be prosecuted for war crimes, but he has a reason behind it. no senseless accusations or scare tactics. just an honest opinion. i just find it really hard to believe that someone has hated every single thing obama has done so far. people are so focused on being down with a group, republican and democrat. you either hate everything or you like everything about a president. it's stupid.
I don't like Glenn Beck because he might have raped and murdered a girl in 1990. He has not refuted this claim, and questions have been asked. I cannot support a child rapist and murderer
I used to think something like that, but now I'm not so sure. I think a lot of the hate is specifically guided by specific Republican centerpieces (like Beck). These folks use words such as socialism, fascism, and communism to evoke specific emotions in their constituents, riling them up enough to the point where they believe practically anything that comes out of the speaker's mouth. Generally, the folks who claim socialism or fascism are either uneducated or simply narrow-minded and don't wish to hear any other point of view other than the typical ideological "American" rhetoric ("boo government! boo immigrants! boo diplomacy! yay war!"). Anything that flies in the face of these stances is narrow-mindedly thought of as un-American and the insults and misinformation of that sort begins to fly. It has snowballed, much to the original speaker's glee (Beck, Limbaugh). People are beginning to criticise things like postponing meetings with the Dalai Lama to benefit our diplomatic discussions with China. They skew it as a slap in the face to citizens of Tibet, but simply cannot fathom being cooperative with a communist nation, despite the benefit of what being friends could be. A lot of this administration's policies are with an open mind and with diplomacy at the fore-front, which is why many international leaders are applauding Obama as a welcome change over Bush. This administration is getting away from the tunnel vision of 9/11 and finally trying to rekindle friendships we might have burned when we went about our own agenda back then. But this is frowned upon by people like Beck and Limbaugh; they claim it's weakness, as if we're giving in to other countries. Terms/phrases like "weak" or "giving into communism" are spewed repeatedly, and since such phrases evoke emotions of distaste for 99% of America, many people latch onto them and agree. What they don't realize is the hidden agenda behind those semantics, sadly. While this is more than I wanted to write, I will say this in summary: people like Glenn Beck make me sick. This country, and the world, would advance further, be more peaceful and more successful without them. They are a waste of my time, your time, and everyone's time. People who listen to them are simply misguided.
I view Beck and such like him in the same way I view religion. Beck is a preacher, and if you agree with his overall views you hold back criticism because he reads from the same book you do, even if his perception differs. Above all, it isn't a person like Beck that draws you to Republican side in the same way a Preacher doesn't make you christian, the belief in the word of God in the bible does. Hence the term preaching to the choir, thats all Beck does. If you don't read from the republican book, you begin to be suspect out of every word out of his mouth and you really miss the good in what he says. What bugs me in both cases is both sides forget that these men aren't just preachers they are men as well. As men, they have the ability to be wrong (even though they would never admit it). As men, they aren't free from criticism and they aren't free of excuse either. But to get back to the topic at hand, do I like him? No. It's not his views that bother me, his money/love of, or his looks; I just think the guy seems like an a-hole. I don't watch him, and in fact I've blocked both Fox News and MSNBC and CNBC (CNBC has a mac bias) from my TV. I'm happier with Comedy Central and Nickelodeon. Oh well...
Of course the world would really advance (to a socialist utopia) without the fear of leftist big government. Those concerns are for the uneducated and misguided. I now see my misgivings. I will put thy faith into the hands of the liberal overseers. I will let the stench of Oprah's ass calm my fears and heal my heart. Oh... I see that you used the word "generally". Sorry. Nevermind. I guess its ok to question the liberal herd mindset... sometimes.
That's not what he said at all, next time try and attack an argument he actually made. He said that the buzz words resonate with the uneducated primarily because they can't see that the arguments made have no weight, just irrational fears. Look, I'm afraid of bears, but does that mean every politician I elect should have an antibear agenda? In the grand scheme of things, anybody who is educated knows that one administration cannot completely reform the country into Stallin's Russia, it can't be done. The uneducated immediately latch onto that fear. There are bigger issues that need to be conquered here, but it seems like no matter what side you're on, the small issues take precidence. You have a higher chance of dying of cancer/heart disease/preventable health problems than murder and terrorist attacks combined, yet, under Bush/Kerry years terrorism was pretty much all that was talked about. Diplomacy with countries like Iran seems more important than Gay marriage and the possibility of opening up trade with Iran opens a new market of educated workers that can stimulate both economies, and yet all we hear about it is stuff like no on 8. Both sides do it, it's easier to use buzz words like Gay Marriage, terrorists and Freedom than to talk about real issues. That's all he's saying... Or so that's how I read it...
You're right on both accounts -- that was what I meant, and yes, both sides do it. Lately, however, Beck and Limbaugh have been the most obvious ones I've seen (as usually, it's the minority who is chirping).
That they're clowns? Sure. That I'd consider writing to their sponsors and broadcasters because they're objectionable? Nope. I find Olbermann boring and too biased to be relevant. But I don't find him hateful, and I don't hear rants I consider racist, sexist, insensitive or abrasive just for the sake of being so. I've never heard him mock someone with Parkinsons, make fun of another country's war dead, or refer to a presidential candidate as a Magic Negro. Rush does not consider himself a commentator -- he approaches his show as a businessman. And it's working. He's at $35m+/yr; Beck's at $10m/yr. So if he can milk the advertisers by creating controversy through his abrasiveness, I can pressure those advertisers not to fund his crap. I wish more people who are offended by his rants would do the same.
The above is from the Teaparty Fact/Fictions thread (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=174589&page=13&pp=20). Wow, what a jerk. That is a horrible thing to say to someone.
not even close. just b/c he says he is doesnt mean he is one. everything that this guy advocates is inline w/ the republican/neocon agenda. if you actually listen to the content of what he says, he is absolutely NOT anything akin to a libertarian. libertarians would be against things that infringe on our civil liberties such as the patriot act, warrentless wiretapping and the like - beck supported such things (when junior was president at least). libertarians would be against advocating for war with countries that have never attacked or threatened us. beck has called for the need to go after iran and he was a supporter of invading iraq. libertarians would also be against corporate bail-outs and stimulus packages, which beck actually said we needed more of. he is for the war on drugs, which libertarians are absolutely against. i could go on, but hopefully you get the point.
